Tarkin was just confiding his fears to him.
It came off as a threat.
He wasn’t threatening him, but the plan sure was a threat to them both.
She’s pretty much calling Vader a lap dog. How is that not insulting him? Also if I’m not mistaken she says this after she’s interrogated.
Touchè!
Weren’t you talking about Vader being under Palpatine? I thought you referred to him as in TESB and ROTJ, because he’s nowhere to be seen in ANH, and he wasn’t his master according to that movie, just the Emperor.
Darn, I did at the end of that point but Kylo only takes shit from Snoke and deservedly so while Vader takes crap from Leia and Tarkin.
Just by Leia once,
while Kylo takes shit from Snoke, Poe and Hux.
As I said, he wasn’t “promptly mind raped” for his taunts during his torture, unlike you said. Kylo didn’t react agressivily against one of his taunts, he was being insistent/threatening because that was his mission. Could it actually be he likes to be taunted? 😄
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and tells him the First Order should rethink their technique after his initial interrogation (which was not by Kylo) and is promptly mind raped
Yep, he was “mind raped” mostly as part of his (second?) interrogation by Kylo.
Also you can say that him saying the First Order (and him by extension) is a taunt.
Maybe, buy I don’t remember him reacting against it.
Tell it to the viewers. Threatening to the viewers, so they can care for the main characters, that’s my point :\
Well viewers subjected to their own opinions. I have debated with people who say Vader (even in ESB) isn’t a great villain for this or that reason. I’m trying to keep my personal beliefs out of it and talk about what his actions are in the film.
If this is subjective as you say, than there’s no need to discuss it anymore. Tomorrow I’m going to call J.J. and suggest him to write a villain who steals kids’ candies. It’s going to be a masterpiece 😄
Lets see:
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Don’t make me post my list again and make an additional one about Vader in ANH, I’d rather not repeat myself on this. I agree we disagree, ok? 😄
Qui-gon’s first duel against Maul, for example, was a successful way to make his character an actual threat to the viewers, as well as Obi-wan, Luke’s master, being killed by Vader in a one-on-one duel.
Qui-Gon was defeated in a heated duel and that was due to Maul’s skill and youth.
Which made the viewers fear for his life when Maul later reappeared and Qui-gon was forced to fight one-on-one again against him. This is good.
Obi-Wan literally let Vader kill him. I mean…
Whether he did it or not, Luke’s “mighty” master had died by Vader’s hand, and Luke would’ve not been able to complete his training to defeat Vader anymore. It worked.