I meant Vader picking him up (or what Vader actually did to make Luke fall into the chamber in ESB), holding him down with The Force and turning on the Carbonite chamber.
Not if it was just a test. If it wasn’t a test, then of course I guess he could’ve done that, though there’s the old debacle on whether the Force can be used to hold living being, but let’s not go into that.
Well you said lightsabers necessarily had to be handled with two hands while that wasn’t the fact in the PT. But in ESB Vader has no problem using Makashi and for all intents and purposes Luke is trying his best. Or at least trying at any rate.
:\ Don’t twist my words, now: they had to to fully utilize them, because, according to Hamill, it was supposed to be pretty heavy. Since Vader is just playing with him and not using his full strength, he can handle it with just one hand.
Tarkin does respect him
Tarkin respects him and thinks of him as a friend but he tells him to stop choking that Imperial Officer and he tells Vader his plan of bugging the Falcon had better work. To which Vader had no response too. Hux would never say something like that in TFA even if he did outrank him.
He tells him to stop him out of fear the situation could degenerate. About his plan, Tarkin was just confiding his fears to him. He trusts him so much, he doesn’t react either to Vader’s claim that Leia would’ve never betrayed the Rebellion.
Leia fears him
“Governor Tarkin, I should have expected to find you holding Vader’s leash” - Leia
😄 I knew you would’ve brought this one. She’s taunting Tarkin, not Vader. She never harrasses Vader and definitely fears him after she’s be captured, especially (of course) during her torture.
Rey on the other hand calls Kylo a creature in a mask and a monster. Quite a difference. No?
Nope 😄
I didn’t say anything about Vader in ESB or ROTJ in that segment though. In ESB he is a monumentally better villain and character; this I will not deny and in ROTJ he was still a main villain but was still subservient to Palpatine like Kylo is to Supreme Leader Snoke. I won’t hold that against either of them.
Weren’t you talking about Vader being under Palpatine? I thought you referred to him as in TESB and ROTJ, because he’s nowhere to be seen in ANH, and he wasn’t his master according to that movie, just the Emperor.
Poe is not “promptly mind raped”, he’s just brought away after an embarassing silence. He’s tortured later in the movie, because that’s Kylo’s mission, not as a rection against his taunt.
I was talking about his interrogation scene. […]
Kylo Ren: I had no idea we had the best pilot in the Resistance on board. Comfortable?
Poe: Not really
Kylo Ren: I’m impressed. No one has been able to get out of you what you did with the map.
Poe: Might wanna rethink your technique.
Kylo starts his mind probing
Kylo Ren: Where is it?
Poe: The Resistance will not be intimidated by you.
Kylo Ren: Where is it?
*Poe starts to scream and Kylo tells Hux about the information being in a BB Unit.
As I said, he wasn’t “promptly mind raped” for his taunts during his torture, unlike you said. Kylo didn’t react agressivily against one of his taunts, he was being insistent/threatening because that was his mission. Could it actually be he likes to be taunted? 😄
John Doom said:
Vile, but not threatening.Tell that to Finn, Rey and Poe Dameron. Also you could tell it to the Han and Lors but they’re dead. Or even the First Order officer that told him about Finn, Rey and BB-8 escaping Jakku but there’s a possibility he’s dead too.
Tell it to the viewers. Threatening to the viewers, so they can care for the main characters, that’s my point :\