John Doom said:
I’m not specifically questioning the reason why he couldn’t kill Finn or Rey, I’m not avoiding the fact he was injuried, which may have weakened him for the final duel. My point is only his ability throught the movie to be seen as a constant threat to the viewer. I already explained you why I don’t think he was, but I’m not going to force you to agree with me, so let’s just end this discussion already or we’re going to repeat our stances forever 😄
Well the viewer doesn’t matter because I’m speaking strictly for how Kylo Ren is a threat to the main characters all of which were at his mercy with the exception of Rey during the interrogation scene.
But there’s nothing I can say to sway you even a little bit.
We can’t be sure of this because we’ve never seen him chocking someone out in either ANH or TESB.
If someone can either choke you out or choke you to death by normal means why can’t The Force do that? And what about the other suggestion I made?
For example, lightsabers necessarily had to be handled with two hands, while in the PT only one hand is needed. The Force is also used much more frequently during duels in the PT, while this isn’t the case in the OT.
Vader used one hand early on in his duel against Luke in ESB
It depends on whether his attempt to push him into the freezer was a first test (so without using all of his abilities, just to test if he was at least able to overcome that one).
I don’t think it was a test. Him freezing Han just to test out whether Carbon Freezing was viable likely indicates that was his primary motive early on.
You mean Tarkin by Leia? Nobody harrass Vader in Star Wars, except for Motti(?) who nearly gets killed because of this. Every character either respect him or fear him.
Yes I mean Tarkin, Leia and Motti. Neither of them show no respect. In TFA Poe cracks a joke to him and tells him the First Order should rethink their technique after his initial interrogation (which was not by Kylo) and is promptly mind raped, Hux warns him not to let his personal reasons interfere with the Supreme Leader’s wishes but is silenced when his life is threatened by Kylo and is scolded by Snoke when he is resisted by Rey. But that’s his Master; I don’t remember Vader every giving Palpatine any crap before he killed him. And just like with the few exceptions of those who don’t respect Vader everyone else either fears or respects Kylo Ren.