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Post #924095

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Lord Haseo
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(Spoilers)How could The Force Awakens have been more original?
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Date created
4-Apr-2016, 12:56 PM

John Doom said:
-he fails to retrieve vital informations from Poe;

No…he did get the information that the map is in a BB unit from Poe. I think you meant Rey and if so then you’re right.

-he can’t take control of the situation;

Exactly what situation are you referring to.

-he has to rely on his supposed Master;

Well he hasn’t completed his training so of course he would seek guidance when faced with failure.

-that FO-guy doesn’t respect his authority and is in no way scared of him;

HUX: Careful, Ren, that your personal interest does not interfere with orders from Leader Snoke.
KYLO REN: I want, that map. For your sake, I suggest you get it.

Hux doesn’t say shit after this.

-he’s deep inside conflicted;

So? Vader had conflict as well and unlike Vader when Kylo is presented with a chance to do something decent he chooses the darkness.

-he looks visibly scared for his failures;

I wonder how Vader looked underneath the mask when Luke defeated him. I’m sure he didn’t have a blank face. The only thing we see of Vader is his hand is stretched towards Luke…as if he’s asking for mercy.

-he doesn’t exort any information from Ray, who even menages to escape under his nose;

Technically it was the Storm Troopers fault she escaped but whatever.

-he’s wounded by Chewie;

Yeah, he just killed his father. He was swept up in the moment and didn’t mind his surroundings. Something that Vader wouldn’t do but then again Vader has a shitload more experience and training than Kylo does.

-he’s wounded by Finn, a generic ex-FO soldier;

Actually Finn was at the top of his class but that injury was due in part to the bow caster wound but more so to his arrogance. Within 8 seconds he could have killed Finn but chose to prolong the fight and in turn he was injured.

and if Kylo had not been so pompous in his abilities he would have fled and initiated a conflict when his abilities weren’t hampered.

I’m not saying he should’ve been able to do everything above, but he wasn’t an enough threat to be considered a proper villain, a reason to worry for the main charcter’s life :\

Well considering that he’s not supposed to be a fully realized villain yet (Like Luke wasn’t supposed to be a fully realized hero in SW or ESB) he did surprisingly well especially given his lack of training and experience when compared to Vader.