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Scott109
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(Spoilers)How could The Force Awakens have been more original?
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4-Apr-2016, 12:18 AM

Lord Haseo said:

Scott109 said:

Lord Haseo said:

Scott109 said:

Lord Haseo said:

As far as depth goes it’s a bit deeper than STAR WARS was. Especially when it comes to the villain aspect of the films.

I am not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Care to form a rebuttal or?

Darth Vader was an epic villain precisely because 1) his backstory was revealed gradually 2) his prowess in combat was far superior to the protagonist’s, and 3) his internal conflict was hidden until the very end of the trilogy.

Kylo Ren fails on all three counts.

You fail to realize I was talking about the Vader in STAR WARS which is also known as A New Hope. I wasn’t talking about Vader in general. But Vader in STAR WARS was a one dimensional but awesome villain whereas Kylo is a layered character in TFA.

In A New Hope, Vader is a former pupil of Obi-Wan’s who turned to evil and hunted down and destroyed the Jedi Knights, is a great and powerful warrior, is a religious mystic, and is a TIE-Fighter pilot.

Darth Vader is a traitor, a warrior, a mystic, a pilot, and a cyborg. That is hardly one dimensional.

Imagine if Darth Vader took off his mask, spoke of his struggle between the light and the dark sides of the Force, and struggled to kill Obi-Wan, who was a father figure to him. He would have been a much weaker villain. Villains should not have to struggle to commit villainy. Villains should be naturally villainous.

The scene in which Kylo Ren struggles to murder Han Solo was supposed to be poignant. In reality, it was pathetic.