Info: Recommended Editions of Disney Animated (and Partially Animated) Features — Page 35

Hi, does anybody have any of these video masters/transfers? I’ve been working on some restoration comparison videos, and it would REALLY help me if somebody has any of the following:

-Dumbo (1982 and 1991 laserdisc editions)
-Cinderella (1988 and 1995 laserdiscs)
-Alice in Wonderland (1981, 1986 and 1991 laserdisc editions)
-The Jungle Book (1990/91 master from 1992 laserdisc)
*Also the 1967 “Jungle Book” theatrical trailer and “Making of a Musical Masterpiece” documentary from the 1997 laserdisc
-The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1982 and 1996 laserdisc editions)
-Pixar’s Knick Knack (original 1989 version from “Toy Story” Deluxe CAV Edition)
-Walt Disney Home Video/Classics/Masterpiece Collection Bumpers in Laserdisc quality
-Plus the original Winnie the Pooh featurette versions (“Honey Tree”, “Blustery Day”, “Tigger Too”, and “A Day for Eeyore”. The fourth mentioned is a special case because I’ve noticed there are three different versions of the opening credits: the first from the 1984 release of “Winnie the Pooh and Friends”, the second from post-1986 to pre-2002 releases, and the third from post-2002 releases of “The Many Adventures” which incorrectly credits Jim Cummings and Ken Sansom, instead of Hal Smith and Will Ryan as Pooh and Rabbit respectively.)

Please PM me, thanks! 😃

Doctor M said:

GoboFraggle1983 said:

Doctor M said:

Actually, I found two that might be different releases (one in a bundle of several Disney films), but this one had full sized screenshots.  (You can check them out on RuTracker if you want.)

Where exactly did you find this?

Was that really a question?

Yes, and I should’ve made it more clearer by asking where on RuTracker were those screenshots found.

Doctor M said:

Okay, that makes more sense.
It appears the DVD publisher was IDDK which is ИДДК in Russian. FYI, the release is dated 2005.

Ah, OK. I just found it now. Do you know which year that specific “Cinderella” video master was made (1988 or 1995 VHS/laserdisc)?

Molly’s (?) LD preservation has better colors than that Russian DVD:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/155315/picture:0

On another subject, some comparisons of a 35mm print (?) to Bluray of Snowwhite:

http://i.imgur.com/bFmIRO1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/i3Y66Ml.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P8DBxt7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/uhFEXIt.jpg

THese are sections of the image, not the whole image.

Molly said:

I think - it’s been years - that my old DVD-R was based on a CLV 1995.

I have CAV 1988, CLV 1988 and CLV 1995 but my player’s dead. 😕

(ETA: this is not a response to the previous post)

Oh. 😦 Well, is there anything else you could possibly try?

Has anyone done any comparisons of the Netflix Streaming content and the physical media available? I’ve watched Dumbo on Netflix, but that was really before my eyes were open to this kind of thing.

For those who wants “Mickey’s Christmas Carol” in HD and without that awful DNR, it’s available (unfortunally without it’s opening credits) on rutraker as part of the “Mickey’s Magical Christmas: Snowed in at the House of Mouse” special

I thought it could be used in a preservation project, but as it doesn’t have a high bitrate (around 4287kbps, it’s a web-dl/iTunes rip) I don’t think it may be useful.

EDIT: BTW, there’s a better, 10 mbps version at a certain spleen 😉

jolennon said:

EDIT: BTW, there’s a better, 10 mbps version at a certain spleen 😉

Under what name? I can’t find it there…

Edit: never mind, found it.

FrankT said:

Would it be feasible to add grain back onto the Dumbo BD and colour-grade it to the '87 LaserDisc?

There’s a 1987 laserdisc? (I’m only familiar with the 1981, 1991, and 1995 releases.) If there is, I didn’t even know it existed.

Does anybody here have the ability to record from the US iTunes in HD? There’s at least one Disney release (and probably more) in HD on iTunes, that never found their way to Blu-ray…

I was able to at least make a few restoration comparison photos for “Dumbo” and “Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree” (even though I still don’t have any of the mentioned tape masters I’m missing in order to create an actual video comparison; the ones listed with a star are the ones I’m missing):

Dumbo:

Versions Compared:
*1981/1982 (original VHS/laserdisc release; correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the 1985-1989 VHS editions used the same transfer as well)
*1991 (Walt Disney Classics VHS/laserdisc re-issue)
-1994/1995 (Masterpiece Collection edition, also used for the 1999 UK/Australian DVDs)
-2001 (60th Anniversary Edition)
-2006 (Big Top Edition)
-2011 (70th Anniversary Blu-Ray remaster)

Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree:

Versions Compared:
*1981/1982? (original VHS/laserdisc release of “The Many Adventures”; correct me if I’m wrong, because I got the screenshot from “The Story Behind The Masterpiece”)
-1986 (original VHS/laserdisc release of “The Honey Tree”)
*1996 (Special Commemorative Edition)
-2002 (25th Anniversary Edition)
-2013 (Blu-Ray remaster; cropped into widescreen)

Missing from the photo above is the 1994-2000 video transfer used on the Storybook Classics VHS releases of the “Honey Tree”)

Doctor M said:

Some of those iTunes versions have been ripped. iTunes usually replaces their version when a new ‘restoration’ is done.
Unfortunately, the quality from digital compression makes these poor sources and not much better than DVD.

I have the “Sword in the Stone” iTunes rip, and it looks considerably better than the DVD (and doesn’t show that awful DNR of the Blu-ray). I’m especially looking for the 1080p version of “Pooh’s Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin”. I’ve managed to get it recorded from Cinemagic HD, and it looks actually really good. It’s been cropped to 1.6:1 and scrubbed of most noise, sure, but it’s nowhere near a DNR-mess like “Sword in the Stone” or “Mickey’s Christmas Carol” and it’s true HD instead of just an upscale. The weird thing is, around the 41 minute mark there’s a fade to black, and when it comes back on, the quality has dropped massively. No clean up, vertical resolution seems to be halved, mute colors… it’s as if they weren’t finished with the restoration (if you want to call it that).

Here are a few screengrabs from it: http://imgur.com/a/ZuDj6

The first six images are from before the quality drop, the last six from after the fade to black.

And that’s why I hope the iTunes HD version is “finished”, so I can at least replace the latter half of the movie with it (plus paint out the Cinemagic logo). Anybody?

cybr1d said:

Has anything happened with The Lion King?

I know it was mentioned on page 1, but 35 pages is a lot to wade through… I also found an old post for it specifically, but nothing of substance.

That was one of my favorite movies as a kid and I was kinda broken-hearted when I heard it’d been altered/censored in re-releases.

I’m not even sure of the actual changes myself, but I believe some things removed were: a dust cloud when the lions ‘get it on’, the “sex”/“sfx” written in stars, while a couple of the death scenes were altered… Not to mention reanimation and (i believe) added characters/songs.

They replaced some alligators that looked like some painting. You can see the original in an Elton John music video.