Oh, I don’t think anyone’s claiming that PSB is a perfect color-reference, just that it is far more likely to be closer to what the original prints looked like than any old home-video release or severely faded print color-corrected by eye. And when I have several sources, which I have reasons to trust, pointing towards a certain timing of a scene, I am, hopefully quite logically, gonna take the timing in that direction, especially when the sources pointing to another timing have very questionable colors. There is no definite reference for Empire (and having more experience with these matters now, I agree with Puggo that there is no definite perfect color reference for any movie), which is why even in v2.0 I didn’t stick to any one reference religiously, like I did (quite misguidedly as it turns out) on SW v2, but instead, I studied the various references and came to a conclusion on which general direction to take the timing of a certain scene. You’ll be happy to hear I am dialing down the blue in the Wampa scene for v2.5, but nowhere near to the level of the Grindhouse, which is at least as far from a trustworthy color reference as the official BD. I already have the new Wampa scene nearly done, so stay tuned for some samples in my own thread - sorry about hijacking yours, Puggo but I didn’t start it 😉