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Post #913361

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ZkinandBonez
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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1-Mar-2016, 10:08 AM

Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

I should probably have phrased that better. My point was just that they tend to treat the canon almost as they would history. Many fans (not referring to anyone on particular) tend to insist that SW follow a degree of continuity that would makes sense had it been real, but which would only be convoluted in a fictional narrative.
E.g. the whole Snoke is Plageuis thing would be a poor narrative choice

I respectfully disagree. Having the plan of who we regard as the greatest Sith Lord in galactic history to be part of a much larger scheme would give the entire Saga more gravitas. Not only that Plagueis’ midichlorian manipulation (they could call manipulation of the Living Force if they wanted to distance themselves from the PT) could make Plagueis/Snoke the most malignant villain we’ve seen in the Saga.

It’s better than having him be some random guy who just waited for Palpatine to fall in order to rise to power. Would make him look like a bitch. Now if Snoke is some other pres established character I wouldn’t mind that all too much.

Ireally don’t see how making Snoke the ultimate bad-guy in the SW galaxy would be a good narrative choice. That really would undermine the OT in my opinion. Also I don’t see how him waiting for Palpatine’s demise is a cowardly move, I’d call it tactical and patient. Of course he could well end up like that, but depending on how Johnson writes the character, it could potentially be really interesting.
Also when I said that it was a poor narrative choice, I didn’t mean in relation to the lore (heck that was the one thing I was complaining about). I was thinking more in terms of character development. And even Palpatine back in the OT wasn’t really that important, other than his relation to the Luke/Vader conflict. I do think a new threat, with it’s own new backstory would work better than to bring back some name that was given in passing four movies ago. Snoke really only needs to make the character development of Kylo and Rey more interesting. So, sure, him being Plageuis could work if it was made secondary, I just don’t see the point or plausibility of it.

Lord Haseo said:

ZkinandBonez said:

not to mention very confusing to casual viewers.

Most casual viewers should know Plagueis from Palpatine’s teaching in ROTS.

I honestly don’t believe that. Many fans would obviously, but remember that not everyone who watch the SW movies are “fans”. Most people I know would not have had a clue who Plageuis is if it suddenly appeared in the next film(s). Disney’s trying to appeal to more than just the fans here, and Idoubt that Rian Johnson, Abrams, Kasdan, etc. really have any interest in bringing back PT character when they can make their own.