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I was 13 when I joined the forums in 2003. I grew up around this insanity.
The Force Awakens : Fan Edit Ideas — Page 11
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
This one wins. Sorry. Just not quite sure what.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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http://comicbook.com/2016/02/25/star-wars-the-force-awakens-blu-ray-dvd-includes-7-deleted-scene/
Well, this might be nice for our community.
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“There aren’t a lot. There’s one with Harrison Ford, there’s one with Rey, but there aren’t a lot.
“I think there are maybe seven or eight,” added Markey.
Sounds like they’re probably holding a lot of it back for now.
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
That would have been a great year for you if you were a metalhead. Reign In Blood, Darkness Descends, Master of Puppets, Obsessed By Cruelty and Pleasure To Kill all came out that year.
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I forgot Epicus Doomicus Metallicus came out that year as well.
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
Crap, I’m older than you
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I’m currently near the end if the novel. I’m telling you, I would have liked the movie more if many scenes had been included, such as more Snoke/Ren conversation about Vader and foreknowledge of the Starkiller before it does its thing, better understanding of the politics, etc. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy the movie, but I appreciate it a lot more with details fleshed out, and I’m pretty sure most of these scenes were filmed because the novel stays real close to the source material. An extended edition might be all I need to go from liking to loving the movie.
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such as more Snoke/Ren conversation about Vader
I was hoping this was a deleted scene…it makes Snoke seem much more intelligent than he seems in TFA. Not only that anything that developed their relationship further would be a good thing which is something I felt could have been done better.
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“There aren’t a lot. There’s one with Harrison Ford, there’s one with Rey, but there aren’t a lot.
“I think there are maybe seven or eight,” added Markey.Sounds like they’re probably holding a lot of it back for now.
Let’s hope not. I guess we won’t know for sure until later. But JJ said 20 minutes, which is a lot. 7 scenes could reasonably make 20 minutes but then again could easily be less. We’ll see.
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
Crap, I’m older than you
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
That would have been a great year for you if you were a metalhead. Reign In Blood, Darkness Descends, Master of Puppets, Obsessed By Cruelty and Pleasure To Kill all came out that year.
Pass.
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
That would have been a great year for you if you were a metalhead. Reign In Blood, Darkness Descends, Master of Puppets, Obsessed By Cruelty and Pleasure To Kill all came out that year.
Pass.
To each their own mate 😃
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dkeighobadi said:
I’m guessing you’ve watched that viral video on “How TFA is worse than the Prequels”, which, whilst again having a few good points, irritates me greatly.
I haven’t watched this youtube video (if you understand french here is nevertheless a well made video to be watched, which is different than a video showing some bloke sharing his life and thoughts : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpx1yM7liLA).
I’m not saying TFA is worse than the prequels, I’m saying this is basically the same stuff (the same stuff since RETURN OF THE JEDI to be correct), same strengths and (almost) same weaknesses, but with a OT nostalgia cloak on it (“oh it’s the Falcon, it’s got to be awesome !”). It looks good, it seems less offensive than the PT, but in the end there is the same DNA failure, and even new issues with the characters: What do they want ? What are their conflicts ? What have they learnt and what have they lost ? Rey in alreay filled with the Force and once she’s “unlocked” she is even more powerful (at least Superman has kryptonite…). This issue is new in Star Wars : you don’t like Anakin in the PT ? Ok, but in each film Anakin has a conflict and has to make strong choices that determine his nature and his link with the Force (leaving his mother, avenging her death, falling to the dark side). Rey, on the other hand, never makes a single strong decision: she just wants to stay on Jakku for cloudy reasons : she’s waiting for her family to go back… what family ? who are they ? why doesn’t she try to search them since she so good at stick fighting, saber fighting, piloting, climbing, Jedi Mind tricking, fixing unfixable ships, understanding the network door system in seconds of a ship when has never seen before ?, etc. When adventure calls, she just says that she wants to go back on Jakku. Yeah, to my view this is the worst main character in a Star Wars film: she’s not interesting at all. It was up to Ep VII to answer most of these questions, not the following movies (it’s “Star Wars”, not “Lost” !). It’s a very weak leading character. Finn is by far more interesting, but Abrams and Kasdan don’t use him well (when Finn confronts Phasma - shouldn’t be something important for him ? - the scene is really awkward and tries to be funny), and in the end Finn is just a comic relief in the movie and a guy who has a crush on Rey. So, basically it does not feed the plot with his characterization (oh, yeah, there is: he was cleaning the toilet on Starkiller base…). Not to mention the treatment of OT main characters.
It’s the 7th in a saga, and a sequel (it’s easier to do than a prequel): new ideas and characters are underdeveloped, recycled ideas are boring, and embarrassing “fan service” are the final stroke. Ep VIII & IX can’t fix that. Ep VII is supposed to be a movie with enough material to work on its own (Ep V ends on a cliffhanger but it has a complete story), and it’s not. No fan edit can fix it, but with a few things removed it could almost be a decent installment of the saga (I really like most of the first 30 minutes of the movie - until Han Solo shows up in fact -, some action shots, and the Han/Ben scene, even if really lazy in its writting : so to my view it’s average).
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dkeighobadi said:
I’m guessing you’ve watched that viral video on “How TFA is worse than the Prequels”, which, whilst again having a few good points, irritates me greatly.I haven’t watched this youtube video (if you understand french here is nevertheless a well made video to be watched, which is different than a video showing some bloke sharing his life and thoughts : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpx1yM7liLA).
What do they want?
Rey wants to leave Jakku and wants to be reunited with her family. Finn wants to leave The First Order and wants to fall in with a group of decent people and Kylo Ren wants to fully commit to the Dark Side and just like Leia, Han and Snoke wants to find Skywalker. Also Leia and Han want to bring their kid back from the abyss.
Why is this even a question?
What are their conflicts?
Rey desperately wants to be reunited with her family and at this point in borders on denial and when she touches Luke’s lighsaber and has her vision she wants no part in it largely because she was terrified of Kylo Ren. Finn is dealing with maintaining the lie he has made about him being in The Resistance and is trying to transcend his cowardice so that he can properly protect his newly found friends. Do I even have to go into what Kylo Ren’s conflicts are?
What have they learnt and what have they lost?
Rey learned she has a power beyond her understanding and that she must get training to focus her power and she has lost a father figure. Finn has learned that even though he felt he had nothing to fight for initially, his companions are all that he needs to press on and he lost his…uh spine. Leia learned that her son is beyond redemption.
Rey, on the other hand, never makes a single strong decision:
I think Rey going off to get training from Luke is a pretty strong decision. I mean that will effect the entire outcome of the trilogy…
what family ? who are they ?
We’re not supposed to know yet…
why doesn’t she try to search them since she so good at blah blah blah
Maybe because out of millions of habitable worlds it would be advantageous to stay on the one planet you know with absolute certainty your parents know you’re on.
understanding the network door system in seconds of a ship when has never seen before ?,
She also let out the Rathtars and almost killed everyone but I guess you think she planned that out right?
Sorry Frink.
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dkeighobadi said:
I’m guessing you’ve watched that viral video on “How TFA is worse than the Prequels”, which, whilst again having a few good points, irritates me greatly.I haven’t watched this youtube video (if you understand french here is nevertheless a well made video to be watched, which is different than a video showing some bloke sharing his life and thoughts : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpx1yM7liLA).
I’m not saying TFA is worse than the prequels, I’m saying this is basically the same stuff (the same stuff since RETURN OF THE JEDI to be correct), same strengths and (almost) same weaknesses, but with a OT nostalgia cloak on it (“oh it’s the Falcon, it’s got to be awesome !”). It looks good, it seems less offensive than the PT, but in the end there is the same DNA failure, and even new issues with the characters: What do they want ? What are their conflicts ? What have they learnt and what have they lost ? Rey in alreay filled with the Force and once she’s “unlocked” she is even more powerful (at least Superman has kryptonite…). This issue is new in Star Wars : you don’t like Anakin in the PT ? Ok, but in each film Anakin has a conflict and has to make strong choices that determine his nature and his link with the Force (leaving his mother, avenging her death, falling to the dark side). Rey, on the other hand, never makes a single strong decision: she just wants to stay on Jakku for cloudy reasons : she’s waiting for her family to go back… what family ? who are they ? why doesn’t she try to search them since she so good at stick fighting, saber fighting, piloting, climbing, Jedi Mind tricking, fixing unfixable ships, understanding the network door system in seconds of a ship when has never seen before ?, etc. When adventure calls, she just says that she wants to go back on Jakku. Yeah, to my view this is the worst main character in a Star Wars film: she’s not interesting at all. It was up to Ep VII to answer most of these questions, not the following movies (it’s “Star Wars”, not “Lost” !). It’s a very weak leading character. Finn is by far more interesting, but Abrams and Kasdan don’t use him well (when Finn confronts Phasma - shouldn’t be something important for him ? - the scene is really awkward and tries to be funny), and in the end Finn is just a comic relief in the movie and a guy who has a crush on Rey. So, basically it does not feed the plot with his characterization (oh, yeah, there is: he was cleaning the toilet on Starkiller base…). Not to mention the treatment of OT main characters.
It’s the 7th in a saga, and a sequel (it’s easier to do than a prequel): new ideas and characters are underdeveloped, recycled ideas are boring, and embarrassing “fan service” are the final stroke. Ep VIII & IX can’t fix that. Ep VII is supposed to be a movie with enough material to work on its own (Ep V ends on a cliffhanger but it has a complete story), and it’s not. No fan edit can fix it, but with a few things removed it could almost be a decent installment of the saga (I really like most of the first 30 minutes of the movie - until Han Solo shows up in fact -, some action shots, and the Han/Ben scene, even if really lazy in its writting : so to my view it’s average).
Is there an edit idea somewhere on this wall of text?
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The point of your post being… ? You’re point of commenting everything being… ?
@ Lord Haseo
Hem… kiddo, your opinion… no point.
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The point of your post being… ? You’re point of commenting everything being… ?
I’m just asking if there’s an actual edit idea in there. I don’t have an hour to read it.
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MalàStrana said:
Hem… kiddo,
The pot calling the kettle black…
your opinion… no point.
opinions =/= observations
Just because you have a less than rudimentary understanding of the character and the film as a whole doesn’t mean you can disregard observations that are based in empiricism. My viewpoint on the character has been blatantly stated in other posts, yes. But not in my last one. You’re using the word “opinion” as a scapegoat.
Also your post signature is blatantly antagonistic. Just because you don’t like TFA that wouldn’t make it justifiable for me to say something like “You don’t know a thing about what makes a good movie” and also the “thinking with your dick” thing is just wrong.
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I just noticed that signature. What an offensive piece of garbage.
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I just noticed that signature. What an offensive piece of garbage.
JEDIT: TWICE
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I just noticed that signature. What an offensive piece of garbage
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Honestly, I’ve consistently tried to criticise the plot of TFA, but in my honest opinion its just so intrinsicly right, everything is just, right, for me. I don’t know how to explain it other than for me, it makes perfect sense.
Nobody here, however, is saying it cannot be improved upon with a bit of tinkering…
Literally the only significant problem I can find in the ENTIRE movie, is that the more I think and research, the more it seems like they’ve mirrored episode 4 too much. When LordHaseo said this for example, Rey desperately wants to be reunited with her family and at this point in borders on denial and when she touches Luke’s lighsaber and has her vision she wants no part in it largely because she was terrified of Kylo Ren. I immediately thought of Luke and how at first he too didn’t want to leave, which I had even forgot about. The point being is that this in particular is totally unnecessary. She could have a different but equally valid reason to stay. The thinking here to me is a little closed. And the “it’ll be explained in the later movies” excuse does not hold, it needs to be a movie in its own right (character-wise, plot wise its sound), just like A New Hope was. This was the only other problem I had with the film. It’s probably the poorest if you’re new to the franchise, with the possible exception of Ep 1 or 2.
But other than that, and especially these surging criticisms of the film-making, cinematography, score (say what you want, I adored it), or consistently dull lines? Honestly. It’s just invalid.
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I was 13 in 1986. Get off my e-lawn.
Crap, I’m older than you
Me too 😄