Harmy's Despecialized Star Wars 1977 - Color Adjustment Project for v2.7 (released) — Page 5

FrankT said:

What about the shot of the exhaust port?

http://i.imgur.com/P5s1ee2.jpg ?

Funny enough, I accidentally deleted that shot on last night’s ‘final’ render in the process of upgrading the Falcon shot (there is something very wrong with the keyframes in that falcon shot or something. Interestingly, other versions have had glitches there too). So even if I wanted to shrug off another shot upgrade, I need to re-render anyway.

I’m going to work on the final Death Star shot that Harmy mentioned, and then render a real final version. So, speak now or forever hold your etc if there is anything else to address.

FrankT said:

Again, the adjustments look excellent, more a sort of natural look. Did you say the next version would have the 1981 crawl?

Yes. There’s a blu-ray version where the crawl is selected and then seamlessly branched. But if Harmy lets me call it 2.6, I’ll put out another MKV as well. Probably just with the 77 crawl.

I’m also hoping to get the lossless Harmy files to get a really proper encode for the final V2 release. But between the 97SE and 2.5, that’s something like 240 gigs I think. So, no immediate timeline on that.

But, a note on bitrate while I’m at it: Since proper BD authoring software was used, a lot of audio tracks had to go. I upped the bitrate to fill a BD25. So it’s now at target bitrate of 23 Mbps, max of 32. I’m sure there’s still generational loss, but hopefully it’s at an absolute minimum as that’s very high bitrate for a 720p movie.

Oh you weren’t planning on releasing the '81 one as a MKV? 😦 Is there any chance of that going up?

Cheebo said:

Oh you weren’t planning on releasing the '81 one as a MKV? 😦 Is there any chance of that going up?

Yeah. That would be no problem.

Did you take another look at the desaturated colors in the explosions we talked about yesterday and determine if anything could be done about that? Can’t wait for the release. 😃

towne32 said:

Cheebo said:

Oh you weren’t planning on releasing the '81 one as a MKV? 😦 Is there any chance of that going up?

Yeah. That would be no problem.

Awesome!!! I can’t wait. Thank you.

BMadden said:

Did you take another look at the desaturated colors in the explosions we talked about yesterday and determine if anything could be done about that? Can’t wait for the release. 😃

Yeah. Actually, although my work on those shots is extremely minimal, it does look a bit more intense than the raw Tn1 shots as I up the contrast (darkening the blacks) and slightly bump the saturation. But no, they cannot be made fiery orange/red like Harmy’s.

Something like that should’ve been picked up in the scan. I don’t think it’s really bleached or anything. And a few example shots I’ve seen from other scans look similar. The flames are a bit more orange in some blasts than others (like the trench explosions). But some, like Red Leader, really do look a bit pale, don’t they? I can’t say conclusively, but this does seem to me the way the print actually looks to some degree. It’s possible that things changed for the GOUT. I just don’t know.

I think there will be some you’ll be happy with and some that will be a bit too pale for you.

towne32 said:

BMadden said:

Did you take another look at the desaturated colors in the explosions we talked about yesterday and determine if anything could be done about that? Can’t wait for the release. 😃

Yeah. Actually, although my work on those shots is extremely minimal, it does look a bit more intense than the raw Tn1 shots as I up the contrast (darkening the blacks) and slightly bump the saturation. But no, they cannot be made fiery orange/red like Harmy’s.

Something like that should’ve been picked up in the scan. I don’t think it’s really bleached or anything. And a few example shots I’ve seen from other scans look similar. The flames are a bit more orange in some blasts than others (like the trench explosions). But some, like Red Leader, really do look a bit pale, don’t they? I can’t say conclusively, but this does seem to me the way the print actually looks to some degree. It’s possible that things changed for the GOUT. I just don’t know.

I think there will be some you’ll be happy with and some that will be a bit too pale for you.

Thanks for the explanation. As Harmy just said I’m sure everything will look great when watching the film and not comparing screen shots. 😉

BMadden said:

towne32 said:

BMadden said:

Did you take another look at the desaturated colors in the explosions we talked about yesterday and determine if anything could be done about that? Can’t wait for the release. 😃

Yeah. Actually, although my work on those shots is extremely minimal, it does look a bit more intense than the raw Tn1 shots as I up the contrast (darkening the blacks) and slightly bump the saturation. But no, they cannot be made fiery orange/red like Harmy’s.

Something like that should’ve been picked up in the scan. I don’t think it’s really bleached or anything. And a few example shots I’ve seen from other scans look similar. The flames are a bit more orange in some blasts than others (like the trench explosions). But some, like Red Leader, really do look a bit pale, don’t they? I can’t say conclusively, but this does seem to me the way the print actually looks to some degree. It’s possible that things changed for the GOUT. I just don’t know.

I think there will be some you’ll be happy with and some that will be a bit too pale for you.

Thanks for the explanation. As Harmy just said I’m sure everything will look great when watching the film and not comparing screen shots. 😉

Right! Actually the reason for the change was mostly that it blends with the surrounding shots better. The higher saturated explosion shots also have very green/blue saturation of the trench itself, which is at odds with some other shots. Not blaming Harmy for that, though. The GOUT has some of that going on.

towne32 said:

Cheebo said:

Oh you weren’t planning on releasing the '81 one as a MKV? 😦 Is there any chance of that going up?

Yeah. That would be no problem.

Speaking of which, if you still want it I can try and get you my 81 crawl recreation sometime within the week.

Thanks. If the crawl is still a bit shakey then I think I’ll stick with the 1997 (I.e. 1977) star field with ANH crawl, unless anyone, such as Harmy, is strongly opposed to that. As it is now, it matches the look of DeEd pretty well in my opinion.

But I do appreciate the offer!

Yeah no problem 😃 just thought I’d throw it out there in case you wanted to use it.

If anyone’s interested I may put an mkv of my 1981 despecialized on the spleen in case someone wants it but doesn’t necessarily want my final blu Ray disc with all the bells and whistles. This uses towne32’s version as a base with a few scenes color corrected by myself and a recreated 1981 crawl/flyover spliced into the beginning.

Darth Lucas said:

Yeah no problem 😃 just thought I’d throw it out there in case you wanted to use it.

If anyone’s interested I may put an mkv of my 1981 despecialized on the spleen in case someone wants it but doesn’t necessarily want my final blu Ray disc with all the bells and whistles. This uses towne32’s version as a base with a few scenes color corrected by myself and a recreated 1981 crawl/flyover spliced into the beginning.

I’d definitely download that if you put it on the Spleen. 😉

towne32,

Are you getting rid of the Gate Weave that Harmy added to the '77 opening crawl?

Nope.

towne32,

Did you date Sigourney Weaver in '77?

TV’s Frink said:

towne32,

Did you date Sigourney Weaver in '77?

Dear Frink,

I waited until 1992 when she was at the peak of her film career and hair styling decisions.

Memorex said:
Btw, did you manage to keep all the english audio mixes for the final encode?

Nearly. I could do 8, so I’ve left out the LD commentary (since it’s almost entirely nothing anyway), the non-English tracks, the visually impaired track, and the isolated score. For anyone who wants that, they’ll want an MKV release of some sort or other.

One thing I haven’t brought up until now is that the first 3 tracks, that were DTS-HD, are going to be the Dolby Digital versions from Harmy’s AVCHD release. For the seamless branching to work, the BD muxing software needs to mux part of the tracks into one m2ts and part into another, and the software doesn’t play nicely at all with these particular tracks. In fact, only tsmuxergui and multiavchd work well with those tracks in my hands. The extra disc space went into extra video bitrate. Again, an MKV version for anyone who finds this to be a dealbreaker.

What BD software are you using again towne32?

towne32 said:

One thing I haven’t brought up until now is that the first 3 tracks, that were DTS-HD, are going to be the Dolby Digital versions from Harmy’s AVCHD release. For the seamless branching to work, the BD muxing software needs to mux part of the tracks into one m2ts and part into another, and the software doesn’t play nicely at all with these particular tracks. In fact, only tsmuxergui and multiavchd work well with those tracks in my hands. The extra disc space went into extra video bitrate. Again, an MKV version for anyone who finds this to be a dealbreaker.

Wait, so is it just an issue of the audio format tripping up the seamless branching or are the DTS-HD files also too large to fit on a BD-25 with the higher bitrate video? If I download then MKV with the '81 crawl rather than the ISO with the seamless branching, will I be able to fit it on a disc with the lossless audio? I only acquired a receiver that could handle 5.1 DTS-HD a couple of months ago, it seems like a damn shame to have to revert to DD on what otherwise looks to be my dream release as far as Despecialized goes.

Well, I haven’t encoded the MKV yet. It won’t be too big to fit on a BD25 with the DTS-HD tracks, though. It’s just a matter of how many of the bonus tracks are allowed to fit on.

What happened the first time was I tried to get all 22 or whatever tracks to fit. It fit just about perfectly, with 16mb to spare. Then, I re-encoded due to something I had to fix, and it went over a bit. So, for my V1 release you need to exclude two of the 160mb ac3 tracks for your least favorite language. Which is fine. No one should need every language in a copy for their own personal viewing.