What is so wrong about gay romance being in Star Wars? — Page 5

Bingowings said:
For all we know there may be more gay people in Star Wars than straight. It’s just the straight characters talk on screen about it.

This is true, really the only sexual relationships we ever see in the films are Han and Leia, Anakin and Padmé, and Owen and Beru. Other than that, Luke and Lando both display interest in Leia, and I guess Jabba and Sebulba have weird interspecies shit going on (attraction to female twi’leks seems to be almost universal). So we’ve got six characters involved in heterosexual relationships, and another two who are shown to be attracted to the opposite sex. Literally everyone else could be gay for all the information we’re given (and any number of those eight could just as easily be bisexual as straight).

EDIT: Before this gets misinterpreted, I want to clarify that my point isn’t that Star Wars doesn’t need to add explicitly LGBTQ characters because if you want that you can just decide in your head that General Madine or Lobot or whoever else is gay. What I mean is that depicting a homosexual relationship isn’t going to have a disruptive effect on the story because romantic relationships are of secondary importance to the narrative (well, except for Anakin and Padmé, and we all remember how that went over). Beyond the fact that a Skywalker is probably going to have to reproduce at some point if the numbered episodes are going to continue beyond the ST, nothing hinges on a character’s orientation anyway, and so I see no reason not to be inclusive.

You left out Yoda and Chewie.

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In Legends they were biological hermaphrodites but still had male or female gender identities. No idea whether or not that’s still canon.

I can’t believe this discussion is still going on.

10.000 years plus and it shows no signs of going away.
That’s why all the kinky gay stuff and protocol droids are missing from the epic of Gilgamecha

Nothing wrong with it but doing it for the sake of it would be pointless. Any notion of a Poe and Finn relationship is ridiculous. Finn with his “boyfriend” remark did subtly hint at an attraction to Rey already anyway. For all we know Poe could be gay, but frankly I don’t care, if they want to make a passing reference to it then fine, making a story out of Poe’s love life whichever way he swings would probably be some unnecessary side story.
Of note, our two major relationships in Star Wars result in important children and at this stage there is also the possibility of Rey being Luke’s daughter so a non-reproducing relationship has something of a dead end to it rather than being part of a saga.

As for romance generally - it doesn’t really work in the PT (I don’t like sand etc) and in the first two OT films it’s tied in with the Luke/Han rivalry so it serves a function.

The strongest romance hint in ANH was Luke and Leia and that ended up queerer than gay.
As for a gay romance not having story consequences look as far as Willow and Tara in Buffy.
Lots of story regardless of no offspring.
Plus these guys could adopt.
Poor Miss Kitty Fantastico 😦

Romance just for the sake of romance should be avoided in general. For han and leia, it was something which developed their characters, and thus served a purpose beyond “well we need romance so let’s put in romance”

I don’t care what gender the people involved in a Star Wars romance are. I care what it does for the story and what it does for their characters’ development. If the answer to either of those questions is “nothing”, then keep it out.

Here’s a question. If Yoda and Chewie are both male, it’s still a homosexual relationship, even though they’re different species…right?

CrazyH said:

Finn with his “boyfriend” remark did subtly hint at an attraction to Rey already anyway.

That’s true but you never know…bisexuality is a thing

“If” added to front of question, sentences restructured, and typo fixed.

I’m surprised more people don’t talk about how gay Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are. Look at this:

Actually think how interesting the PT would have been if there was a Obi-Wan/Anakin/Padme love triangle but Obi-Wan was into Anakin, not Padme. Holy shit that would have been amazing (assuming it was done properly).

imperialscum said:

PT would be far better off without any romance.

There would have to be at least implied romance. Luke and Leia have to be born somehow.

Neither crap nor weird if done correctly.

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

PT would be far better off without any romance.

There would have to be at least implied romance. Luke and Leia have to be born somehow.

Not every dot had to be connected, which Lucas completely failed to understand.

My first encounter with slash fiction was a Obi-Wan/Qui-Gon shipific.
First I thought it was sweet and then it got very specifically detailed. I wondered how did this teenage girl know this sort of stuff? 😄

TV’s Frink said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

PT would be far better off without any romance.

There would have to be at least implied romance. Luke and Leia have to be born somehow.

Not every dot had to be connected, which Lucas completely failed to understand.

When it comes to shit like how C3P0 came into being sure I see something like how Luke and Leia being born as something that needs to be connected. Perhaps not in the way that it was done in the PT but to completely omit their existence would have been strange.

imperialscum said:
Why does everything need to be so grand? What about a realistic scenario: Anakin simply had sex with some random girl. No boring romance, no reason to be mentioned and ESB plot twist is preserved for people who watch it in I-VI order.

I mean him being with Padme and him fucking a random chick are both realistic scenarios. People do get in relationships in real life…Don’t they?

That’s why I suggested an implied romance in my other post. Subtle nods here and there that indicate Anakin and Padme might be having sex or might be in a relationship. In Episode II or III Padme is preggers and Anakin is no where near that because he’s either still fighting in the Clone Wars or because he’s joined with Palpatine in destroying the Jedi Order. That way the twist isn’t outright told but the hints are there. Just like how the hints are there that the Ice Truck Killer is connected to one of the main characters in Dexter.

Spoiler alert?