Team Negative1 — Page 5

crackinwax said:

If that article is accurate, any meeting between Disney/Fox and Verta would have to be awfully productive. That’s not to say that an original trilogy re-release is impossible, of course.

yes, that is accurate. It’s still possible. Fox has incentive to squeeze out every last dime until then.

**edited to be less dicky

Laserschwert said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

crackinwax said:

If that article is accurate, any meeting between Disney/Fox and Verta would have to be awfully productive. That’s not to say that an original trilogy re-release is impossible, of course.

yes, that is accurate… Thanks for making the OT community aware of this fact. We wouldn’t have found out if not for your great detective work.

Quite dickish for a newbie…

I should’ve checked. I feel bad

This whole thing seems as avoidable and silly as the continual issues that have gone on with TN1 since the beginning. Why in the world is there need for such secrecy, yet simultaneous openness on here and even public sites? Then combined with the continual multitude of releases and tests everywhere it all gets very confusing–much as if all the various members never conversed with one another.

I also don’t get why it had to be an anonymous Team account so that one could never figure out if you were talking with the same entity or needed to re-explain yourself.

I think this is a major problem going on here, that there are just too many folks, projects and discussions running around and less of the overall unified atmosphere that existed when I joined years ago. This whole situation underlines the problem. And with Disney now doing who knows what with the OT due to both the new sequels and the upcoming 40th anniversary, I think we’ve got to be both more careful and united as a group committed to the OT’s preservation.

Because at the end of the day, we’re just doing what we can in place of the shoddy official “work”. We research, learn and discuss in order to try and try over and over again. Nothing we do can ever be perfect and we’ve always run the edge of what is exactly legal.

This place is invaluable; it can and has taught me more about the process than any school ever did. If I somehow misread what happened here, then by all means disregard this post. I just wanted to put my two cents in with how it felt to me.

And it’s all the more sad because the Silverscreen v1 was staggering even though not yet completed, and the IB sample is IMO the single best thing we’ve ever managed. What a shame.

I think from now on team accounts should be outlawed. I cannot think of any reason to have them. Harmy collaborates with a lot of other users but they did not create a communal “team_negativeHarmy” account.

BobbyDigital said:

Can someone provide a link to the IB sample? I’m pretty new here and not sure what it is. Thanks.

It’s down/removed/broken I’m afraid - I missed out too! My download canceled at about 95%, then when I tried to start again the file wasn’t available!

Laserschwert said:

I think it’s still available at the Spleen.

In that case, heading there right away!

EDIT: Found it, thanks for the heads up Laserschwert! Downloading now 😃

TV’s Frink said:

FrankT said:

TV’s Frink said:

FrankT said:

it’s still our fault.

Care to withdraw that statement now?

I suppose I should.

Does this mean the endorsement on the Silver Screen Edition is getting pulled?

What endorsement?

Our endorsement…!

moviefreakedmind said:

I think from now on team accounts should be outlawed. I cannot think of any reason to have them. Harmy collaborates with a lot of other users but they did not create a communal “team_negativeHarmy” account.

I agree. No more team accounts!

moviefreakedmind said:

I think from now on team accounts should be outlawed. I cannot think of any reason to have them.

What about a multiple-personality disorder? Team account is not an option, even if “internal” consensus is established, due to the recent prohibition of team accounts. Multiple accounts is not an option as it could be perceived as sock accounts. I guess normal account is not an option either as I assume account sharing is not allowed either.

Prior to TN1, the rule was no team accounts, iirc.

“one account per user, one user per account”, right? I know TN1 was called out on it but for some reason it was allowed to slide.

“It has come to our attention that some of the recent screen shots posted by Team Negative1 are from a scan of a print that has been obtained by unethical means without the owner’s knowledge or consent.”

Thanks to another former member of Team Negative One I have been able to examine the original emails, including those from “person #2”, and they prove beyond any doubt that Mike Verta did NOT pay for the Technicolor scan we received (though he did pay another scan which we don’t have). They also prove that we were given permission to use the scan in anyway we saw fit by the person who actually did pay for it. Now I’m not going to paste the content here because I believe that the one thing both Mike and -1 would actually agree on is that these kind collectors who very generously agreed to share their priceless prints with us, are not to blame for any of this and certainly don’t deserve to be identified in any way or dragged into this any further than they already have.

In fact -1 told me repeatedly to leave things alone, he’d rather take all the blame than have it shifted to them, so please, let’s leave them out of this. I’m only bringing this up now because yesterday Jetrell Fo made a valiant defense of the Team (in the 35mm thread) but in doing so focused attention on the collectors, which is actually worse than leaving us with all the blame.

But, the fact is, I don’t think anyone should be blamed for what, in the end, can only be put down to a lack of communication between all the parties involved.

Secondly, I don’t think it is fair to label -1 as wanting to be “the guy who wanted to save Star Wars” or seeking “fame”. First of all, all the interviews are by a “Mr. Black” - not even “-1” and all this trouble with the Team Account was BECAUSE OF HIS WISH TO BE ANONYMOUS! It’s pretty hard to seek fame and anonymity at the same time! The only reason we agreed to any interviews at all was to make sure the details were reported as accurately as possible, if they were to be reported at all. Nobody wanted the media circus that followed. And I don’t see anybody accusing Harmy of wanting to be the guy who saved Star Wars or seeking Fame and fortune based on his projects and he’s been in the spot light a lot longer than we have.

Thirdly, in spite of the knowledge that we had done no wrong we still agreed to shut down the project “for the greater good”.

So, regardless of whether or not you “like” -1 or Team Negative One (Frink), knowing all this, is it fair to continue this thread any further? Or should there in fact be a public apology for what in the end turned out to be false, untrue, incorrect and unfounded allegations of misconduct that were just thrown out there along with an immediate ban which prevented the accused of uttering even a single word in his own defense?

Do you still think the print was obtained unethically? The fact that Mike didn’t give his consent is irrelevant - he neither paid for the scan, nor owned the print. Consider this, the owner of the scan, that is the person who actually paid a huge amount of money to have it scanned, took the time to copy 21 TB of data onto 7 3TB hard drives, boxed them all up and mailed them to the team so they could use them. It’s hard to picture that happening without his knowledge or consent.

I rest my case.