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Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 16

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To say that TFA was not generally considered good is an absolute lie. That’s coming from me, and I didn’t even like it much at first. I didn’t like Avatar but I’d be lying to pretend that no one else liked it either.

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I’m not saying it’s not true, I just think it’s a sad state of affairs when such low effort garbage is so acclaimed.
Critics have been worthless for a while though.
The OT got mixed reviews, and they are ALL (yes, ROTJ included) much better than TFA.

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swagmasta69 said:

I just think it’s a sad state of affairs when such low effort garbage is so acclaimed.

I don’t remember the prequels being held in high esteem…I was a kid then but still.

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I don’t know why anyone would take the guy who ranks ROTS as the number two SW film seriously.

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The prequels, especially ROTS, got mixed to good reviews.
Very similar reviews to the OT at the time of release.
Roger Ebert gave TPM 3.5/4 stars.

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I had a strange dream. A prequel fan bashed TFA for supposed lack of effort. Yeah, it was pretty weird…

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How 'bout no?

Instead, I will suggest you compare the art design of both, as well as characters (both writing and acting). Story-wise both the PT and TFA have a lot of flaws, but when compared in terms of effort, I really tend to root for the team, that actually gave a crap about what they were doing.

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The art design? The PT has a plethora of new creative planets and vehicles, TFA has notTatooine, notEndor, notHoth, planet Ireland, and exremely lazy vehicle redesigns.

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swagmasta69 said:

TFA has notTatooine, notEndor, notHoth,

Yes because we were never going to a planet with a desert ever again. Just like we weren’t going to see another planet with a forest ever again.

Also the planet were Maz’s castle is located is more comparable to Yavin IV.

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Well at least the vehicles look like they are from the same universe. The same can hardly be said for PT. The location rehash is a fair point, but in time they will hold up much better than PT worlds. The use of bad CGI to create new worlds resulted in effects that looked dated the year after the release and a few years after that pretty much anybody could replicate such effects on a personal computer. On the other hand, lot of the OOT practical effects still looked impressive decades after the release.

Also, art design would include costumes, the general aesthetics etc.

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swagmasta69 said:

Explain how the prequels are lazier than TFA in a 90 page essay, due friday.

I don’t need 90 pages. ROTS is one the laziest made film out of all the prequels. Lets just shoot the whole thing against mostly green screen and don’t even bother to shoot any outdoor scenes using, you know, natural light. How much more effort would it have been for george to take that green screen outside the studio to the backlot? Not a single shot of that whole film was filmed outside of the studios four walls. Lazy film making.

And then there is the CG characters and eye lines. If you are going to add a CG character that the actor needs to interact with, then make sure you get the damn eye line of the actor right so he at least looks like he is looking at the character, instead of right through it. George himself said that he didn’t care about the eye lines. Another lazy step done by George that would have helped sell the CG characters. Yet TFA got this spot on.

Another is getting the actors performance how you want it while shooting. george wasn’t bothered about doing the job right. He always thought it could be fixed in post. Well, sorry george, it didn’t work. lazy

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