Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 582

Editroid said:

I can’t decide on whether I should download the Despecialized Edition of A New Hope, or the Team Negative 1 restoration. Which is better to any of you?

Get both and decide.

TN1’s is a preservation. If you want to see film grain and reel markers and a few remaining scratches as if you were in the theater, that’s the best version. If you want something more like what the blu-rays should have been, Despecialized would be better. Though a few of the non-HD sources still stick out in Harmy’s SW 2.5, and the color is as times not as good as TN1’s preservation. For ESB and RoTJ, neither the color nor the image quality is really a problem at all. They’ll hold up well even against TN1’s upcoming releases, in part because they incorporate these film scans themselves.

In that case, I’ll stick with the Despecialized Edition.

Haha duly noted guys 😉 I’ll definitely stick around, not as sure as too how much I’ll post but the place is definitely full of dedicated star wars fans! As someone who’s been a part of the fanbase for 2 months at best I’ve got some catching up to do!

TN1 is a great preservation in the truest sense of the word. It’s what you should watch if you are a fan who wants to see exactly what it looked like in 1977, whether you were around back then or not.

Despecialized is better for all other purposes though. If you’re watching or showing someone the series for the first time, especially kids, that’s what you should watch. It’s probably closer to the original film negatives due to being sourced mostly from the Blu-Ray and has a lot more clarity and detail, while TN1 is an old print several generations removed from the original. That means it’s closer to what was actually seen by the public in 77, but it’s not the way it was originally intended to look.

For me, Despecialized is my “main version” now and I don’t see that changing unless we get an official release, but I’m still glad I have TN1 and it was a great watch.

Discostu said:

It’s really a matter of taste. I like it better if Blu-rays have grain and show that the movie was shot on film and therefore I prefer the TN1 version.

I like grain on blu-rays as well. It’s a shame when it’s all scrubbed away. But I tend to prefer the more mild grain of the negative to a theatrical print. Plus TN1’s is one generation after that, as a dupe. Their IB version and other SW films have grain that’s a bit better for my eyes. But there are tons of different opinions and options, which is great.

You’re going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.

Furthermore (though I know this is really getting ahead of things):

Do you think you will wait for the IB scans from either TN1 or elsewhere, or do you plan on putting the LPP based scan to use instead? The IB quality just looks like such a great improvement, and should come closer to matching the BD material. It also has the benefit of being in line with your intended colors.

chyron8472 said:

So how exactly will the Silver Screen Edition affect color palette for Despec v3?

I do admit I feel somewhat that outdoor scenes on Tatooine feel rather bright and somewhat yellow hued. Especially so in the canyon scene where Luke meets Ben.

Not to complain, though.

Despecialized’s colour palette is based on the Technicolor IB’s look. TN1’s Silver Screen Experience goes with the Eastman colours. He’ll probably stick with the former.

I finished the BD .iso of SW Despecialized 2.5 with menus. I was not able to make the DTS-MA files work. I ended up using the AVCHD. It still looks and sounds great. This, I think, will be a good stop-gap for anyone that wants to watch a blu-ray with menus prior to the release of the 1080p 3.0 releases that are supposed to have all the bells and whistles. I have uploaded a multipart .rar to mega. I need to know what the proper place to post the links is.

If I get a positive response to this setup, I’ll go ahead and modify the project for TESB and ROTJ.

Harmy said:

CatBus said:

Fortunately, the Lowry process seems to have had a harder time scrubbing away grain than it did scrubbing away starfields. Or maybe that’s unfortunately.

Actually, there’s tons of fake grain added on top of the 2004 master.
Check out this screenshot from the BD’s uncompressed ProRes source file:
http://s25.postimg.org/buby9gkjx/Pro_Res.jpg
The same excessive noise that is all over the image actually overlaps into the black bars.

Great picture. Can I ask what’s the source?

vfxhooker said:

I finished the BD .iso of SW Despecialized 2.5 with menus. I was not able to make the DTS-MA files work. I ended up using the AVCHD. It still looks and sounds great. This, I think, will be a good stop-gap for anyone that wants to watch a blu-ray with menus prior to the release of the 1080p 3.0 releases that are supposed to have all the bells and whistles. I have uploaded a multipart .rar to mega. I need to know what the proper place to post the links is.

If I get a positive response to this setup, I’ll go ahead and modify the project for TESB and ROTJ.

First, I don’t think burning a Blu-ray without available lossless audio tracks is the most attractive proposition. What really confuses me, though, is when you say you used the AVCHD, do you mean that you used the AC3 audio from the AVCHD and used the Blu-ray worthy/ready v2.5 MKV’s video, or did you make a “Blu-ray” from purely AVCHD sources? If the latter, I don’t see how that is any sort of acceptable “stop-gap” alternative to a full-quality DeEd without menus. If you want to tout it as an AVCHD release with menus, that’s one thing, but calling it a Blu-ray with menus will only cause confusion. Besides, I’ve already seen a menu’d v2.5 BD with a subset of audio/subtitle tracks on the spleen already, not to mention there’s plenty of talk on this thread about a forthcoming BD menu for v2.5 which does not omit any tracks.

If I read what you said wrong, enlighten me, and also please detail what your version does include.