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SpilkaBilka said:

Right, and honestly, how does them using a team account affect anyone in the slightest? Let 'em be.

It’s not about their account, it’s about posting in their own project thread. Apparently this risks sock puppeting. I find it very offensive that these nobodies have the audacity to claim that Team_Negative1 will abuse this site. Considering their work, I think they’ve proved themselves tenfold. Team_Negative1 has never posted anything offensive or off the topic of Star Wars, it’s just people who are anal over a stupid rule. Apparently restoring Star Wars and Empire from original 35MM prints doesn’t give the Team any credibility

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nickyd47 said:

I think they should be able to do whatever they want. They’ve earned it.

You know who can do whatever he wants? Jay, as he owns this site. So what did he say regarding team accounts?

Jay said:

team accounts may only post in their own project-related threads. A team account can’t just start a random thread and post to it.

What could he possibly mean by this?

Ceci n’est pas une signature.

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nickyd47 said:

SpilkaBilka said:

Right, and honestly, how does them using a team account affect anyone in the slightest? Let 'em be.

It’s not about their account, it’s about posting in their own project thread. Apparently this risks sock puppeting. I find it very offensive that these nobodies have the audacity to claim that Team_Negative1 will abuse this site. Considering their work, I think they’ve proved themselves tenfold. Team_Negative1 has never posted anything offensive or off the topic of Star Wars, it’s just people who are anal over a stupid rule. Apparently restoring Star Wars and Empire from original 35MM prints doesn’t give the Team any credibility

You seem to know a lot for someone who’s only been on the site a week. We used to have a problem with sock puppet accounts around here. They were abused to the point we had to get rid of all of them, even the obvious joke ones because nobody is an exception to the rules. I would personally love to have one just for laughs, but even mods have to follow the rules.

We’ve given TN1 an extraordinary amount of slack, and they keep testing the limits of what they can get away with. Who I and the other mods are dealing with is never even clear from one week to the next. It seems like the team member who agreed to play by the rules last year isn’t who’s posting now.

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nickyd47 said:

SpilkaBilka said:

Right, and honestly, how does them using a team account affect anyone in the slightest? Let 'em be.

It’s not about their account, it’s about posting in their own project thread. Apparently this risks sock puppeting. I find it very offensive that these nobodies have the audacity to claim that Team_Negative1 will abuse this site. Considering their work, I think they’ve proved themselves tenfold. Team_Negative1 has never posted anything offensive or off the topic of Star Wars, it’s just people who are anal over a stupid rule. Apparently restoring Star Wars and Empire from original 35MM prints doesn’t give the Team any credibility

Well looky-here, it’s another team member!

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SilverWook said:

You seem to know a lot for someone who’s only been on the site a week. We used to have a problem with sock puppet accounts around here. They were abused to the point we had to get rid of all of them, even the obvious joke ones because nobody is an exception to the rules. I would personally love to have one just for laughs, but even mods have to follow the rules.

weeps for Ric

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Forum Rules : http://www.originaltrilogy.com/post/id/787578

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With these rules in place, we kindly ask that any chiding or mocking of team accounts cease immediately, especially in topics where those team accounts aren’t permitted to post and defend themselves. We consider these posts personal attacks under the existing moderation rules, subject to the same administrative action.

This doesn’t seem to be followed either.

Team Negative1

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That’s definitely true. Mocking and bashing the team_negative1 is something that has been happening a lot lately, and is something that I’m guilty of. That being said, the reason there has been a resurgence of this is because you have been posting outside of your thread with no regard to the rules, which caused the backlash.

The Person in Question

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team_negative1 said:

Forum Rules : http://www.originaltrilogy.com/post/id/787578

Added to OP:

With these rules in place, we kindly ask that any chiding or mocking of team accounts cease immediately, especially in topics where those team accounts aren’t permitted to post and defend themselves. We consider these posts personal attacks under the existing moderation rules, subject to the same administrative action.

This doesn’t seem to be followed either.

Team Negative1

No shit.

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team_negative1 said:

Forum Rules : http://www.originaltrilogy.com/post/id/787578

Added to OP:

With these rules in place, we kindly ask that any chiding or mocking of team accounts cease immediately, especially in topics where those team accounts aren’t permitted to post and defend themselves. We consider these posts personal attacks under the existing moderation rules, subject to the same administrative action.

This doesn’t seem to be followed either.

Team Negative1

Newsflash: We followed the rules until you decided you weren’t beholden to them.

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TV’s Frink said:

nickyd47 said:

SpilkaBilka said:

Right, and honestly, how does them using a team account affect anyone in the slightest? Let 'em be.

It’s not about their account, it’s about posting in their own project thread. Apparently this risks sock puppeting. I find it very offensive that these nobodies have the audacity to claim that Team_Negative1 will abuse this site. Considering their work, I think they’ve proved themselves tenfold. Team_Negative1 has never posted anything offensive or off the topic of Star Wars, it’s just people who are anal over a stupid rule. Apparently restoring Star Wars and Empire from original 35MM prints doesn’t give the Team any credibility

Well looky-here, it’s another team member!

I wish. Sadly I wasn’t involved. I would’ve loved to have been there. I wish I could be remembered as the guy who helped saved Star Wars, and not some user account on some website

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I worked at a Technicolor facility and spoke with the aforementioned Marc Weilage in 2004.

The story he related was that a few guys went up to San Rafael to color the Star Wars DVD release, but they weren’t at the Ranch’s top facilities. There was mention of card tables, temporary workstations, and other less-than-ideal work conditions. The impression I got was that this was quick and dirty.

Based on the results of the Blu Rays, I highly doubt that much more attention was paid to any kind of reference for that release.

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nickyd47 said:

TV’s Frink said:

nickyd47 said:

SpilkaBilka said:

Right, and honestly, how does them using a team account affect anyone in the slightest? Let 'em be.

It’s not about their account, it’s about posting in their own project thread. Apparently this risks sock puppeting. I find it very offensive that these nobodies have the audacity to claim that Team_Negative1 will abuse this site. Considering their work, I think they’ve proved themselves tenfold. Team_Negative1 has never posted anything offensive or off the topic of Star Wars, it’s just people who are anal over a stupid rule. Apparently restoring Star Wars and Empire from original 35MM prints doesn’t give the Team any credibility

Well looky-here, it’s another team member!

I wish. Sadly I wasn’t involved. I would’ve loved to have been there. I wish I could be remembered as the guy who helped saved Star Wars, and not some user account on some website

We’re all grateful for their work and project. But the idea that they should get a free pass for whatever they want because they released something makes no sense. I thought OOT fans would be a little more resistant to mindless sycophancy. Most people who are into that went with Lucas long ago.

But I think that’s probably more than enough dwelling on a nonsense idea suggested an expert who registered this very week.

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towne32 said:

nickyd47 said:

TV’s Frink said:

nickyd47 said:

SpilkaBilka said:

Right, and honestly, how does them using a team account affect anyone in the slightest? Let 'em be.

It’s not about their account, it’s about posting in their own project thread. Apparently this risks sock puppeting. I find it very offensive that these nobodies have the audacity to claim that Team_Negative1 will abuse this site. Considering their work, I think they’ve proved themselves tenfold. Team_Negative1 has never posted anything offensive or off the topic of Star Wars, it’s just people who are anal over a stupid rule. Apparently restoring Star Wars and Empire from original 35MM prints doesn’t give the Team any credibility

Well looky-here, it’s another team member!

I wish. Sadly I wasn’t involved. I would’ve loved to have been there. I wish I could be remembered as the guy who helped saved Star Wars, and not some user account on some website

We’re all grateful for their work and project. But the idea that they should get a free pass for whatever they want because they released something makes no sense. I thought OOT fans would be a little more resistant to mindless sycophancy. Most people who are into that went with Lucas long ago.

But I think that’s probably more than enough dwelling on a nonsense idea suggested an expert who registered this very week.

Look, I apologize for brown nosing. I got worked up over the comments that these people have left towards Team_Negative1. I viewed these comments after watching their scans of Star Wars and Empire, and it really worked me up, because those transfers were the best versions I’ve ever seen (minus the dirt and film artifacts of course) And I couldn’t believe the bashing I was seeing in threads. I still believe that it’s over absolutely nothing, but still, I understand why people were doing it. They broke rules and they’ve been given breaks. I can see why people could get frustrated over that.

I understand that they should abide by the site rules. They don’t own this site. If
they want to do whatever they want, then they should do so on their site (thestarwarstrilogy.com)

They should respect the rules of this site if they wish to continue using it.

I won’t leave anymore hyperbole.

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Its not a big deal. I can see how your expectations of what this forum would be like might have been quite different from reality.

A place where Harmy and TN1 hang out and chat sounds like it must be a mature, professional environment. Lol. A lot of the frustration some members have with TN1 is actually due to the perceived major disconnect between their work and their online persona. But this apparently boils down to which member is currently using the account. If they all had individual accounts (suffixed with TN1 if they like), we could probably interpret things a bit better. But this wouldn’t allow negative1 himself the pseudoanonimity he desires on the occasion that he posts, so we probably won’t see them do this. Williarob uses his own account and posts informative, polite, sane material, so there’s a good precedent for being accountable for your own posts vs anonymous when in a team.

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I think we need to directly compare a print of the ANH SE. The IB print was supposedly used to grade only the 97SE process and resultant prints. And we know that the video masters were wildly off and different so that leaves only the print as possible reference.
With the '04-'11 work being from a sourced 97 file, who is to say that they didn’t grab something that was done incorrectly or a different work file?

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We are planning a scan of the 97 versions. But currently we only have parts of Star Wars SE to reference.

Team Negative1

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Jay said:

team_negative1: Please stop creating non-project related threads. Team accounts may ONLY start topics directly related to their own projects and may ONLY post in those same topics. Any further topics or posts outside the rules will be deleted without notice.

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