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skyjedi2005 said:

captainsolo said:

Sky, do you remember that asking price? I'm curious as to what people would ask for SW. I've seen some IB prints on collector listings sell for usually several thousand or so.

I think it was like 2 grand or something.   Too much for me .

I would buy that for 2 grand in a second. For the good of the community!

 

I'm guessing it's value now is much, much higher.

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Yeah, but who's gonna SCAN it kid, you?

Seriously, that's the rub.  No decent 35mm scanning outfit would touch it with a 10 foot pole. Although at least buying it would keep it from falling into enemy hands.

You BET I could, I'm not such a bad scanner myself...

 

Okay not really. But I'm sure if I bribed some scanning outfit the job would get done... $2000 now, and $15,000 after I see it scanned.

 

Okay not really. But I would definitely protect it with my life =P

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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Yeah, but who's gonna SCAN it kid, you?

Seriously, that's the rub.  No decent 35mm scanning outfit would touch it with a 10 foot pole. Although at least buying it would keep it from falling into enemy hands.

I know of one that did touch a 35mm print of a cult animated film that is still unavailable on DVD in the U.S. (They actually touched it twice because they had DNR switched on and overcranked on the first pass.) I even saw framegrabs of the results.

Unfortunately, I could not get the name of the outfit from the owner of the print, and I have to respect their decision not to disclose the information.

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SilverWook said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Yeah, but who's gonna SCAN it kid, you?

Seriously, that's the rub.  No decent 35mm scanning outfit would touch it with a 10 foot pole. Although at least buying it would keep it from falling into enemy hands.

I know of one that did touch a 35mm print of a cult animated film that is still unavailable on DVD in the U.S. (They actually touched it twice because they had DNR switched on and overcranked on the first pass.) I even saw framegrabs of the results.

Unfortunately, I could not get the name of the outfit from the owner of the print, and I have to respect their decision not to disclose the information.

Let me guess you are talking about permanently banned member ocpmovie, aka Garret Gilchrist.  And Thief and the Cobbler incomplete workprint found in a dumpster.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Not him. And not TATC. No connection to this site at all that I'm aware of.

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If I ever win the lottery, I will use a portion of it to track down 35MM prints and have them transfered...everyone has a price. I will call it the "Oxymoron Edition".
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We have an itch. Perhaps we can help us scratch it.

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Can someone please temp-ban team_negative1 already? If Frink’s not allowed to have his Ric sock and I’m not allowed to – say – have an animated avatar, they shouldn’t be allowed to continually break the team account rules.

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team_negative1 said:

Interesting, seeing how this thread came about, and what is occurring now with scans and prints.

Team Negative1

Yes but not a technicolor print, right?

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Can someone please temp-ban team_negative1 already? If Frink’s not allowed to have his Ric sock and I’m not allowed to – say – have an animated avatar, they shouldn’t be allowed to continually break the team account rules.

We don’t mind, we missed being on the team.

Team Redundant

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TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Can someone please temp-ban team_negative1 already? If Frink’s not allowed to have his Ric sock and I’m not allowed to – say – have an animated avatar, they shouldn’t be allowed to continually break the team account rules.

We don’t mind, we missed being on the team.

Team Redundant

In that case, we’re with you too.

team_we’rewithU2

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TV’s Frink said:

WRONG WE

https://youtu.be/al20AFLf4n8
I think you mean this?

One day we will have properly restored versions of the Original Unaltered Trilogy (OUT); or 1977, 1980, 1983 Theatrical released versions (Like 4K77,4K80 and 4K83); including Prequels. So that future generations can enjoy these historic films that changed cinema forever.

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I would like to know how valuable a Technicolor print is. Especially the one shown at the Senator theatre. Like discussed in this thread, it is well known here and a lot of us would like to have seen it.

One day we will have properly restored versions of the Original Unaltered Trilogy (OUT); or 1977, 1980, 1983 Theatrical released versions (Like 4K77,4K80 and 4K83); including Prequels. So that future generations can enjoy these historic films that changed cinema forever.

Yoda: Try not, do or do not, there is no try.

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How is it possible to have a technicolor print if the film was not shot on 3 strip technicolor…??

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Vader21 said:

How is it possible to have a technicolor print if the film was not shot on 3 strip technicolor…??

It can still be printed on 3 strip technicolor even if it wasn’t shot that way. Same as how you can have a 35mm film printed onto 70mm stock.

JEDIT: Or at least it could if Technicolor was still doing these kinds of prints, but Star Wars was actually the last movie they used this process for before shutting down their labs.

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Darth Lucas said:

Vader21 said:

How is it possible to have a technicolor print if the film was not shot on 3 strip technicolor…??

It can still be printed on 3 strip technicolor even if it wasn’t shot that way. Same as how you can have a 35mm film printed onto 70mm stock.

JEDIT: Or at least it could if Technicolor was still doing these kinds of prints, but Star Wars was actually the last movie they used this process for before shutting down their labs.

Oh ok got you cheers for the info bud… do you know why there would have been a need to create a 3 strip technicolor print since the film was already shot on the newer 35mm single strip colour film…???

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Well the technicolor prints are really nice, and can be used at prestige screenings. They are beautiful in terms of color.

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The North Carolina School of the Arts Film Archive has a technicolor print of Star Wars, part of Ray Regis’ collection (https://greensboro.com/a-reel-jewel-school-of-the-arts-archive-is-one-of-the-best/article_1a78fe79-c018-59aa-8010-e4d941974d6d.html), and I am pretty sure parts of it has been scanned for various restoration projects. I watched it 4 or 5 times while I was there, and it was pristine and just a joy to see because it looked pretty much exactly the way it had when I saw it originally in 1977. When I first saw the print in 1994, it was incredible. Then when the re-release came out a few years later and we went to see that in the theater, we were amazed at how much better the Technicolor print looked then the new THX versions or whatever they had just put out were.

When Star Wars was released in the UK, they realized they needed some extra prints because of the popularity of the film, and since everyone else was busy, they had Technicolor make strike like 12 or 13 prints. Although no one really shot on Technicolor anymore, they still used the same process to create their prints. Somehow Ray got ahold of one, and I know for years fought with Lucas over it. He also had Technicolor prints of Jaws and a few other movies.

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Vader21 said:

Darth Lucas said:

Vader21 said:

How is it possible to have a technicolor print if the film was not shot on 3 strip technicolor…??

It can still be printed on 3 strip technicolor even if it wasn’t shot that way. Same as how you can have a 35mm film printed onto 70mm stock.

JEDIT: Or at least it could if Technicolor was still doing these kinds of prints, but Star Wars was actually the last movie they used this process for before shutting down their labs.

Oh ok got you cheers for the info bud… do you know why there would have been a need to create a 3 strip technicolor print since the film was already shot on the newer 35mm single strip colour film…???

I actually do, because I know who owned one and where it is.

When Star Wars was opening in the UK, they realized how popular it was in America, so they wanted extra prints at the last minute, and no one had capacity… except Technicolor. Although they were a lot more expensive, they wanted to get more copies in circulation so they bit the bullet and got like 12 or 13 copies made.

And (especially at the time) just because the single strip film was newer at the time, it wasn’t better- it was subject to fade and had a higher level of grain than Technicolor. Because it’s an optical print, you can go from whatever image/film you have to whatever stock you print with, it’s not a big deal. The cost of it is very high, and like the other reply said, it was the last film they did (they also did a few prints of Jaws a couple of years beforehand…) because they just couldn’t compete, even though their product was infinitely better.