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What do you HATE about the EU? — Page 37

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I hate how Dark Empire was moved from immediately after ROTJ to after the Thrawn novels at the last minute just because Zahn didn't want to reference Dark Empire. Dark Empire would have worked much better immediately after ROTJ both thematically and in terms of continuity. You'd have a smooth transitiom from the OT to the post-Vader era to the post-Palpatine era. Thrawn could be Palpatine's top admiral (besides dark side Luke) in Dark Empire, setting up the Thrawn novels.

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Good on Zahn. Dark Empire should have been nixed in the early concept phase.

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Personally, I like Dark Empire, flawed though it is. Had Veitch put more emphasis on Luke's exploration into the dark side, it would have come out a more well-rounded story, IMO.

Its sequels, on the other hand ...

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Adding all kinds of ships and squadrons beyond what’s shown and/or mentioned to the battles. We’re told that there’s 30 ships at Yavin but A-Wings, medical frigates, additional squadrons, etc. participated according to the EU.

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The inconsistant properties of cortosis always rubbed me the wrong way. Some writers depicted it as a brittle material which causes lightsabers to short out, others as a super-durable material which can block lightsaber blades. Just pick one and stick to it, sumbitches!

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That in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, Bane causes the very thing that his character revolves around preventing: the extinction of the Sith through infighting.

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darklordoftech said:

That in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, Bane causes the very thing that his character revolves around preventing: the extinction of the Sith through infighting.

The Brotherhood of Darkness needed to be purged because they followed Lord Kaan and his asinine beliefs of equality among the Sith. So Bane destroyed them so he could rebuild the Sith Order under The Rule of Two

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darklordoftech said:

“Darth Andeddu” and “Darth Kruhl”

If you mean him seeking out Andeddu’s Holocron in Dynasty of Evil he had to do that because Zannah hadn’t challenged him even though he waited years and his body was starting to go on the decline. Mostly due to the Dark Side degradation and even so he was still fast enough to dodge every rain drop in a 10 minute thunderstorm.

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Lord Haseo said:

darklordoftech said:

“Darth Andeddu” and “Darth Kruhl”

If you mean him seeking out Andeddu’s Holocron in Dynasty of Evil he had to do that because Zannah hadn’t challenged him even though he waited years and his body was starting to go on the decline. Mostly due to the Dark Side degradation and even so he was still fast enough to dodge every rain drop in a 10 minute thunderstorm.

Notice that I used quotation marks. In other words, I hate those names, not the characters who bear those names.

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Luuke
Luuuke
Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke

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Lord Haseo said:

darklordoftech said:

That in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, Bane causes the very thing that his character revolves around preventing: the extinction of the Sith through infighting.

The Brotherhood of Darkness needed to be purged because they followed Lord Kaan and his asinine beliefs of equality among the Sith. So Bane destroyed them so he could rebuild the Sith Order under The Rule of Two

Don’t try to frieghten me with your EU-worshipping ways, Lord Haseo. Your sad devotion to that ancient canon hasn’t helped you predict VIII or given you clairvoyance enough to predict IX.

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darklordoftech said:

Lord Haseo said:

darklordoftech said:

That in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction, Bane causes the very thing that his character revolves around preventing: the extinction of the Sith through infighting.

The Brotherhood of Darkness needed to be purged because they followed Lord Kaan and his asinine beliefs of equality among the Sith. So Bane destroyed them so he could rebuild the Sith Order under The Rule of Two

Lord Haseo. Your sad devotion to that ancient canon hasn’t helped you predict VIII or given you clairvoyance enough to predict IX.

Bullshit. I’ll castrate myself with a butterknife if Snoke isn’t Plagueis. I’m that damn sure.

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There is just too much stuff I hate about EU to state them. The other thread is more convenient for as stating things I like is easier.

真実

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Lord Haseo said:

Bullshit. I’ll castrate myself with a butterknife if Snoke isn’t Plagueis. I’m that damn sure.

You better start making some kids then before it is too late. 😃

真実

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imperialscum said:

There is just too much stuff I hate about EU to state them. The other thread is more convenient for as stating things I like is easier.

Agreed. Though, there really isn’t anything I “like” about the EU off the top of my head, so I’m going to list my biggest problems (and “official canon” is guilty of some of these too).

  • Everything is stereotyped (not like TPM is racist stuff, and it’s not, you are for thinking it if you did)
    Hutts are all crime lords, or are at least in the business. Also, all hutts are fat.
    Rodians are all bounty hunters, or strive to be such.

  • Everything that happened in the films is either contradicted, or completely underwhelmed/unnecessary by the EU. More superlasers. More giant Star Destroyers (yes, I remember Han’s line from ROTJ). More superlasers on more giant Star Destroyers.

  • It is almost completely created by bad writers, who can’t think of imaginative plots or characters.
    I’m especially fond of one great writer who probably has the worst sense of scale in all the human race. According to this person’s math, there are ~3 clone troopers per republic planet, and are out numbered by the droid army by ~4 trillion:~3 million. Seriously. 3 million clones.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Dek Rollins said:

Hutts are all crime lords, or are at least in the business. Also, all hutts are fat.

While you’re generally correct, there are at least two exceptions to those rules – Beldorion the Hutt* being the most notable example.

*Yes, I’m aware that the Hutt in the article’s main picture is as obese as they come. It’s a very inaccurate depiction of the character, though.

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I’m sorry but when I saw the pictures in that page, with the lightsaber and all, this was my immediate internal thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4ayBHTES0&feature=youtu.be&t=125s

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.

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Some of the comic book art (such as Empire’s End and Golden Age of the Sith.)

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Don’t know if I quite hate this, but while I was reading the Wookieepedia article on the character Sariss, I came upon this tidbit:

Sariss did not know that she was the daughter of Lord Cronal, one of the Prophets of the Dark Side who raised her in the ways of the dark side on Dromund Kaas. There, Sariss first met her later master, Jerec of the Inquisitorius in the Galactic Empire. Because Cronal held to a creed of dark nihilism, the mere existence of his daughter constituted a shocking offence, as it was tribute to creation instead of destruction. Consequently, Sariss was disavowed by her father in a most horrid way possible. Cronal not only allowed his fellow Prophets to freely engage her in carnal relations, but he also partook in the repeated rape himself.

WTF, EU!? That’s dark even for me!

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Dek Rollins said:

(not like TPM is racist stuff, and it’s not, you are for thinking it if you did)

Sure. George bases the Nemoidians on yellow peril caricatures out of the 1930s, and I’m racist for noticing.

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If you categorize asians as reptilian-eyed, noseless, gray-skinned space aliens who speak English with some sort of impediment, then I guess you’d recognize some asians in TPM.

Army of Darkness: The Medieval Deadit | The Terminator - Color Regrade | The Wrong Trousers - Audio Preservation
SONIC RACES THROUGH THE GREEN FIELDS.
THE SUN RACES THROUGH A BLUE SKY FILLED WITH WHITE CLOUDS.
THE WAYS OF HIS HEART ARE MUCH LIKE THE SUN. SONIC RUNS AND RESTS; THE SUN RISES AND SETS.
DON’T GIVE UP ON THE SUN. DON’T MAKE THE SUN LAUGH AT YOU.