Ranking the Star Wars films — Page 9

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

joefavs said:

I honestly can’t recall any themes from ROTS besides “Battle of the Heroes”, which I thought was a lot weaker than “Across the Stars”, “Duel of the Fates”, and even “Trade Federation March”. TFA has at least five themes that have been stuck in my head for more than a month now (“Rey’s Theme”, “March of the Resistance”, “The Jedi Steps”, and Kylo’s two motifs). I really can’t understand why so many people are rating this score so poorly.

Because other than Rey’s theme, they are poorly used in the movie. March of the Resistance could have been used to pump people up, instead its placement in the movie and in the mix just seemed like an afterthought.

And Jedi Steps isn’t that good (to me).

When the X-Wings arrive at Takodana and the Resistance march plays, that’s some major pump-up-age. Sorry there wasn’t a super epic choir and 3 minute all CGI video game tracking shot to go along with it.

And Jedi Steps is objectively beautiful. You’d sing its praises if it was in a George Lucas film.

Why are you talking down to me? There is nothing OBJECTIVELY wrong with CGI.

Never said there was. Just wrong ways to use it. And I’m not talking down to you, just trying to figure out what a PT fan thinks would pump people up

Good filmmaking? Good movie moments? What kind of question is that?

Also, Jedi Steps is SUBJECTIVELY not beautiful. I would not have liked it in a George Lucas film because it’s like a half written piece. it’s extremely simple and never goes anywhere but into a rendition of the force theme with quiet strings that is ripped straight out of this shot/scene in ROTS-

(The segue into the force theme with quiet strings I mean. Obviously Jedi Steps is not in ROTS.)

I’m sorry, I think you meant THIS scene from SW.

The mix in Jedi Steps was closer to the ROTS mix.

https://youtu.be/cUBUlKgsNK8?t=1m59s

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

joefavs said:

I honestly can’t recall any themes from ROTS besides “Battle of the Heroes”, which I thought was a lot weaker than “Across the Stars”, “Duel of the Fates”, and even “Trade Federation March”. TFA has at least five themes that have been stuck in my head for more than a month now (“Rey’s Theme”, “March of the Resistance”, “The Jedi Steps”, and Kylo’s two motifs). I really can’t understand why so many people are rating this score so poorly.

Because other than Rey’s theme, they are poorly used in the movie. March of the Resistance could have been used to pump people up, instead its placement in the movie and in the mix just seemed like an afterthought.

And Jedi Steps isn’t that good (to me).

When the X-Wings arrive at Takodana and the Resistance march plays, that’s some major pump-up-age. Sorry there wasn’t a super epic choir and 3 minute all CGI video game tracking shot to go along with it.

And Jedi Steps is objectively beautiful. You’d sing its praises if it was in a George Lucas film.

Why are you talking down to me? There is nothing OBJECTIVELY wrong with CGI.

Never said there was. Just wrong ways to use it. And I’m not talking down to you, just trying to figure out what a PT fan thinks would pump people up

Good filmmaking? Good movie moments? What kind of question is that?

Also, Jedi Steps is SUBJECTIVELY not beautiful. I would not have liked it in a George Lucas film because it’s like a half written piece. it’s extremely simple and never goes anywhere but into a rendition of the force theme with quiet strings that is ripped straight out of this shot/scene in ROTS-

(The segue into the force theme with quiet strings I mean. Obviously Jedi Steps is not in ROTS.)

I’m sorry, I think you meant THIS scene from SW.

The mix in Jedi Steps was closer to the ROTS mix.

https://youtu.be/cUBUlKgsNK8?t=1m59s

That’s not the music we’re talking about.
https://youtu.be/1bHtsDobdOk?t=51

The quiet strings start at the same time in relation to the horns in ROTS and TFA.
ANH has a slightly different arrangement.

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

The mix in Jedi Steps was closer to the ROTS mix.

https://youtu.be/cUBUlKgsNK8?t=1m59s

That’s not the music we’re talking about.
https://youtu.be/1bHtsDobdOk?t=51

I know. My point is saying that it is “ripped straight out of ROTS” is just inaccurate, though even if it was I don’t see the point. Especially strange coming from the guy who said that it doesn’t matter if a film reuses old music.

swagmasta69 said:

TV’s Frink said:

or Wookiees doing Tarzan yells,

The other two we can agree to disagree on, but a worse version of the ROTS wookie rope swing shot was in ROTJ, so poo poo on you.

“Worse” or not, they both suck.

Also, if you claim to hate the prequels, you shouldn’t be citing them as a reason why TFA is better, unless you’re giving TFA a backhanded complement.

I’m just pointing out how ridiculous your reasoning is.

swagmasta69 said:

mapet318 said:

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. The Force Awakens
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. The Phantom Menace
7. Attack of the Clones

1 and 2 don’t need an explanation, it’s pretty much a consensus. I’ve seen TFA twice now and I enjoyed it much more the second time. I rewatched RotJ and while I still love it, I have to admit that I think TFA is a better movie. Despite the similarities to ANH that have been discussed over and over again, I think it breathes new life into the franchise and has been the most engaging movie since Empire*.

All of the prequels are turds, but RotS is the most polished turd.

Deja vu.

Go back to 4chan.

This is funny because all your images are links from 4chan.

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

The mix in Jedi Steps was closer to the ROTS mix.

https://youtu.be/cUBUlKgsNK8?t=1m59s

That’s not the music we’re talking about.
https://youtu.be/1bHtsDobdOk?t=51

I know. My point is saying that it is “ripped straight out of ROTS” is just inaccurate

no

, though even if it was I don’t see the point. Especially strange coming from the guy who said that it doesn’t matter if a film reuses old music.

I said it’s fine as long as it fits the emotion in the scene. It did, but when the force theme kept popping up throughout the movie and was still more memorable than the rest of the score, including Jedi Steps up to that point, then there is a problem.

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

mapet318 said:

1. The Empire Strikes Back
2. A New Hope
3. The Force Awakens
4. Return of the Jedi
5. Revenge of the Sith
6. The Phantom Menace
7. Attack of the Clones

1 and 2 don’t need an explanation, it’s pretty much a consensus. I’ve seen TFA twice now and I enjoyed it much more the second time. I rewatched RotJ and while I still love it, I have to admit that I think TFA is a better movie. Despite the similarities to ANH that have been discussed over and over again, I think it breathes new life into the franchise and has been the most engaging movie since Empire*.

All of the prequels are turds, but RotS is the most polished turd.

Deja vu.

Go back to 4chan.

This is funny because all your images are links from 4chan.

No, they’re not. They are from A chan, but not 4 chan.

Sorry, honest mistake. They’re from 420chan.

DominicCobb said:

Sorry, honest mistake. They’re from 420chan.

I see your point though. 420chan is probably worse lol. I just needed somewhere to post pictures because the new forum layout here is confusing.

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

The mix in Jedi Steps was closer to the ROTS mix.

https://youtu.be/cUBUlKgsNK8?t=1m59s

That’s not the music we’re talking about.
https://youtu.be/1bHtsDobdOk?t=51

I know. My point is saying that it is “ripped straight out of ROTS” is just inaccurate

no

Yes, I will admit that that 15 second snippet sounds very similar (not exact) to the ROTS arrangement, but to say it was ripped straight out of ROTS when the music before and after is drastically different just doesn’t seem right.

, though even if it was I don’t see the point. Especially strange coming from the guy who said that it doesn’t matter if a film reuses old music.

I said it’s fine as long as it fits the emotion in the scene. It did, but when the force theme kept popping up throughout the movie and was still more memorable than the rest of the score, including Jedi Steps up to that point, then there is a problem.

In fairness, you could say that about any Star Wars movie (besides the original). The Force theme is the most memorable theme in cinematic history.

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

DominicCobb said:

swagmasta69 said:

The mix in Jedi Steps was closer to the ROTS mix.

https://youtu.be/cUBUlKgsNK8?t=1m59s

That’s not the music we’re talking about.
https://youtu.be/1bHtsDobdOk?t=51

I know. My point is saying that it is “ripped straight out of ROTS” is just inaccurate

no

Yes, I will admit that that 15 second snippet sounds very similar (not exact) to the ROTS arrangement, but to say it was ripped straight out of ROTS when the music before and after is drastically different just doesn’t seem right.

, though even if it was I don’t see the point. Especially strange coming from the guy who said that it doesn’t matter if a film reuses old music.

I said it’s fine as long as it fits the emotion in the scene. It did, but when the force theme kept popping up throughout the movie and was still more memorable than the rest of the score, including Jedi Steps up to that point, then there is a problem.

In fairness, you could say that about any Star Wars movie (besides the original). The Force theme is the most memorable theme in cinematic history.

But TFA didn’t have an Imperial March or Duel of The Fates or Across The Stars to balance it out, which made it seem like the Force Theme was overused.

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

swagmasta69 said:

ROTS is much more emotionally authentic than TFA.

The shot with all the markings on the wall that show how long Rey has been on Jakku hit me harder than anything in ROTS. That should say quite a bit.

That should say quite a bit about you if that scene “hit you”.

I didn’t say it made me ball my eyes out. I said it effected me. In that moment I instantly felt an emotional connection with her and I felt sorry for her situation as if I put her there. But that wouldn’t mean anything to someone like you.

Lord Haseo said:
But that wouldn’t mean anything to someone like you.

shots fired

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

swagmasta69 said:

ROTS is much more emotionally authentic than TFA.

The shot with all the markings on the wall that show how long Rey has been on Jakku hit me harder than anything in ROTS. That should say quite a bit.

That should say quite a bit about you if that scene “hit you”.

I didn’t say it made me ball my eyes out. I said it effected me. In that moment I instantly felt an emotional connection with her and I felt sorry for her situation as if I put her there. But that wouldn’t mean anything to someone like you.

Yes, I guess I am too sophisticated to be affected by such trivial stuff.

If sophisticated is the word you want to use then by all means.

Ryan McAvoy said:

1. ROTJ
2. ESB
3. SW
4. ROTS
5. AOTC
6. TPM

Many will disagree about ranking AOTC over TPM. But AOTC actually contained some stuff that were the reasons I wanted to see the prequels, like a big ass Jedi/Clone battle. Where as even though TPM is a much better made movie overall (Still sh*t though) it has Jar Jar (and to a lesser extent little Annie) in it for most of the running time. He’s the most irritating character in the history of mainstream movies and it’s difficult to “enjoy” anything else about that movie as a result. If a highly skilled faneditor/FX-artist ever digitally erased Jar Jar from every single pixel of TPM, then sure I’d probablly rank it as the “least worst” prequel. But so far (To my knowledge) they haven’t yet, so it’ll stay bottom for me.

At least AOTC has Kenobi in it for more than 5 minutes and he does things that significantly effect the plot. At least the villain has more than 4 lines (With Christopher Lee’s voice) and does things that significantly effect the plot. The final LS duel actually has some emotion behind it, despite also being almost totally cr*p. At least they got rid of the botched puppet Yoda. Sadly with a CGI Yoda but you can tell the FX-artists really tried.

What do you seek to accomplish with this?

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

1. ROTJ
2. ESB
3. SW
4. ROTS
5. AOTC
6. TPM

Many will disagree about ranking AOTC over TPM. But AOTC actually contained some stuff that were the reasons I wanted to see the prequels, like a big ass Jedi/Clone battle. Where as even though TPM is a much better made movie overall (Still sh*t though) it has Jar Jar (and to a lesser extent little Annie) in it for most of the running time. He’s the most irritating character in the history of mainstream movies and it’s difficult to “enjoy” anything else about that movie as a result. If a highly skilled faneditor/FX-artist ever digitally erased Jar Jar from every single pixel of TPM, then sure I’d probablly rank it as the “least worst” prequel. But so far (To my knowledge) they haven’t yet, so it’ll stay bottom for me.

At least AOTC has Kenobi in it for more than 5 minutes and he does things that significantly effect the plot. At least the villain has more than 4 lines (With Christopher Lee’s voice) and does things that significantly effect the plot. The final LS duel actually has some emotion behind it, despite also being almost totally cr*p. At least they got rid of the botched puppet Yoda. Sadly with a CGI Yoda but you can tell the FX-artists really tried.

What do you seek to accomplish with this?

opinions you don’t agree with aren’t bait

swagmasta69 said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

1. ROTJ
2. ESB
3. SW
4. ROTS
5. AOTC
6. TPM

Many will disagree about ranking AOTC over TPM. But AOTC actually contained some stuff that were the reasons I wanted to see the prequels, like a big ass Jedi/Clone battle. Where as even though TPM is a much better made movie overall (Still sh*t though) it has Jar Jar (and to a lesser extent little Annie) in it for most of the running time. He’s the most irritating character in the history of mainstream movies and it’s difficult to “enjoy” anything else about that movie as a result. If a highly skilled faneditor/FX-artist ever digitally erased Jar Jar from every single pixel of TPM, then sure I’d probablly rank it as the “least worst” prequel. But so far (To my knowledge) they haven’t yet, so it’ll stay bottom for me.

At least AOTC has Kenobi in it for more than 5 minutes and he does things that significantly effect the plot. At least the villain has more than 4 lines (With Christopher Lee’s voice) and does things that significantly effect the plot. The final LS duel actually has some emotion behind it, despite also being almost totally cr*p. At least they got rid of the botched puppet Yoda. Sadly with a CGI Yoda but you can tell the FX-artists really tried.

What do you seek to accomplish with this?

opinions you don’t agree with aren’t bait

You think ROTJ > ESB and ANH? That’s fine. Think AOTC is less smelly of a turd in comparison to TPM? I’m okay with that. But to express those opinions in conjunction with that even adhering to TFA leaves me to believe that this post was engineered for guaranteed replies.

Lord Haseo said:

swagmasta69 said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

1. ROTJ
2. ESB
3. SW
4. ROTS
5. AOTC
6. TPM

Many will disagree about ranking AOTC over TPM. But AOTC actually contained some stuff that were the reasons I wanted to see the prequels, like a big ass Jedi/Clone battle. Where as even though TPM is a much better made movie overall (Still sh*t though) it has Jar Jar (and to a lesser extent little Annie) in it for most of the running time. He’s the most irritating character in the history of mainstream movies and it’s difficult to “enjoy” anything else about that movie as a result. If a highly skilled faneditor/FX-artist ever digitally erased Jar Jar from every single pixel of TPM, then sure I’d probablly rank it as the “least worst” prequel. But so far (To my knowledge) they haven’t yet, so it’ll stay bottom for me.

At least AOTC has Kenobi in it for more than 5 minutes and he does things that significantly effect the plot. At least the villain has more than 4 lines (With Christopher Lee’s voice) and does things that significantly effect the plot. The final LS duel actually has some emotion behind it, despite also being almost totally cr*p. At least they got rid of the botched puppet Yoda. Sadly with a CGI Yoda but you can tell the FX-artists really tried.

What do you seek to accomplish with this?

opinions you don’t agree with aren’t bait

You think

I don’t think that. I’m saying that Ryan is probably not trolling.

swagmasta69 said:

Lord Haseo said:

swagmasta69 said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

1. ROTJ
2. ESB
3. SW
4. ROTS
5. AOTC
6. TPM

Many will disagree about ranking AOTC over TPM. But AOTC actually contained some stuff that were the reasons I wanted to see the prequels, like a big ass Jedi/Clone battle. Where as even though TPM is a much better made movie overall (Still sh*t though) it has Jar Jar (and to a lesser extent little Annie) in it for most of the running time. He’s the most irritating character in the history of mainstream movies and it’s difficult to “enjoy” anything else about that movie as a result. If a highly skilled faneditor/FX-artist ever digitally erased Jar Jar from every single pixel of TPM, then sure I’d probablly rank it as the “least worst” prequel. But so far (To my knowledge) they haven’t yet, so it’ll stay bottom for me.

At least AOTC has Kenobi in it for more than 5 minutes and he does things that significantly effect the plot. At least the villain has more than 4 lines (With Christopher Lee’s voice) and does things that significantly effect the plot. The final LS duel actually has some emotion behind it, despite also being almost totally cr*p. At least they got rid of the botched puppet Yoda. Sadly with a CGI Yoda but you can tell the FX-artists really tried.

What do you seek to accomplish with this?

opinions you don’t agree with aren’t bait

You think

I don’t think that. I’m saying that Ryan is probably not trolling.

Well I’m saying he probably is. You going to cry about it or something?

Lord Haseo said:

swagmasta69 said:

Lord Haseo said:

swagmasta69 said:

Lord Haseo said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

1. ROTJ
2. ESB
3. SW
4. ROTS
5. AOTC
6. TPM

Many will disagree about ranking AOTC over TPM. But AOTC actually contained some stuff that were the reasons I wanted to see the prequels, like a big ass Jedi/Clone battle. Where as even though TPM is a much better made movie overall (Still sh*t though) it has Jar Jar (and to a lesser extent little Annie) in it for most of the running time. He’s the most irritating character in the history of mainstream movies and it’s difficult to “enjoy” anything else about that movie as a result. If a highly skilled faneditor/FX-artist ever digitally erased Jar Jar from every single pixel of TPM, then sure I’d probablly rank it as the “least worst” prequel. But so far (To my knowledge) they haven’t yet, so it’ll stay bottom for me.

At least AOTC has Kenobi in it for more than 5 minutes and he does things that significantly effect the plot. At least the villain has more than 4 lines (With Christopher Lee’s voice) and does things that significantly effect the plot. The final LS duel actually has some emotion behind it, despite also being almost totally cr*p. At least they got rid of the botched puppet Yoda. Sadly with a CGI Yoda but you can tell the FX-artists really tried.

What do you seek to accomplish with this?

opinions you don’t agree with aren’t bait

You think

I don’t think that. I’m saying that Ryan is probably not trolling.

Well I’m saying he is. You going to cry about it or something?

yes

Lord Haseo said:
…leaves me to believe that this post was engineered for guaranteed replies.
Well it seems to be working.

Here’s my list, in terms of favorites:

1. ESB
2. ROTJ
3. SW
4. TFA
5. TPM
6. ROTS
7. AOTC

This will probably change once I get more time to sit down and watch TFA when it comes out on Blu Ray. And I know it’s weird to have Jedi above Star Wars, but the sheer amount of stupid fun in that movie makes it far more enjoyable in my opinion. Which is also why I put Phantom Menace above Revenge of the Sith- I just have more fun (and nostalgia) associated with it. ROTS is just kind of boring to me.

Now here’s a different list, in terms of objective (as much as I can be) quality of each film:

1. ESB
2. SW
3. TFA
4. ROTJ
5. ROTS
6. TPM
7. AOTC
   I haven’t seen AOTC in a long time, however, so it might be better than I’m giving it credit for, but I doubt it.

Wazzles said:
I haven’t seen AOTC in a long time, however, so it might be better than I’m giving it credit for, but I doubt it.

it is