Song Of The South - many projects, much info & discussion thread (Released) — Page 38

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Zip Doodah said:

cherbetterbest said:

An HD transfer of this would be to die for. I still watch the BBC broadcast of the film from time to time. I love it. Thanks to all who did work on that many years ago 😃

There is a copy on Blu-ray (BDR) now of that transfer. Feel free to PM for details.
(it is the IB Tech 35 print- it was transferred in HD)

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Thanks,

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You do realize that the HD transfer you’re talking about should be shared on sites like Myspleen for all to enjoy, right? There’s no need to be greedy about it, unless… you don’t have what you say you have.

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Have you considered that perhaps you do not know as much as you think you do about the topic, and should have messaged a mod or admin about this instead of publicly posting a PM?

towne32 said:

Avatar_Emil_Borg

Have you considered that perhaps you do not know as much as you think you do about the topic, and should have messaged a mod or admin about this instead of publicly posting a PM?

No, I have not and I’m sorry. Rest assured, it won’t happen again.

poita said:

Against my better financial and mental judgement, I purchased this reel and am organising for it to be scanned.
Some preliminary images:

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Whoa! You are The Man!
BTW, is that how it “should” look? Or does it need narrowed-spectrum processing of the R/G/B’s for that “strong primary colors” look usually associated with Technicolor?

I sure could’ve used those way back on page 24, when trying to color-correct the 16mm without a target … http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/638757

Avatar_Emil_Borg said:

towne32 said:

Avatar_Emil_Borg

Have you considered that perhaps you do not know as much as you think you do about the topic, and should have messaged a mod or admin about this instead of publicly posting a PM?

No, I have not and I’m sorry. Rest assured, it won’t happen again.

Thanks for that. Can you please remove the quote from your post?

I didn’t mean to break any rules here- and I apologize if my message was interpreted as that.

I like the fans of course and just like the idea of a good version available on the film, as you all do. I would not want that version to be available everywhere, and have the profiteers start going around to conventions with it.

I’ve personally never made a profit off a ‘preservation’ film transfer. The people who contributed to help with the transfers did help, but it never covered the actual costs. Transfer is expensive!

Clearly some members of this forum are willing to share pms on a public forum; I’m astonished by that.

I would never share PMs on a forum; I think most of us share the same view.

Previously (the Fleischer Superman Cartoons thread), I was thinking about a Technicolorizer in a paint program using functions that would also be available in Avisynth (overlays, inversions, scaling, etc.). But I just had a brainstorm (ooooh pretty lightshow) for a different approach. The paint program has a colorwheel for hue, saturation, and lightness adjustments. It also has the alternate function of breaking down the spectrum into R-G-B C-Y-M divisions to apply adjustments on those divisions independently.

The whole idea of the Technicolorizer is to restore the strong-primary-colors look of Technicolor’s narrow spectrum sensitivity to the 3 colors that make up film and make it’s films “pop”.

Other film stock are not as narrow and each color picks up neighboring secondary colors – resulting in a comparative muted colors.

In this quick test using the colorwheel, I adjusted the saturation higher than one normally would want, to make more obvious the differences between the various saturation applications. (Sorry for this rushed and abbreviated article. Even this little write-up gobbled more time than I have to put to it.)

• The 1st picture is the recent scan. (Keep watch on background foliage and hand & face color.)
• The 2nd is your every-day, standard, whole-spectrum saturation of +50. Typically, nice coloring on everything also results in glowing skin.
• The 3rd uses the colorwheel’s divisions to saturated, to +50, only the R-G-B divisions of the spectrum. Notice that we’ve achieved stronger color in many areas than picture 2, without making the skin any worse. But our R-G-B spectrum is not yet narrow enough.
• The 4th picture uses the spectrum divisions to over-raise the R-G-B areas to +70 and the whole spectrum to drop everything down, by -20. (This gets us back to the test level saturation of +50.) It has the effect of not only raising the R-G-B, but also lowering the adjoining secondary colors – the ultimate Techinicolor spectrum-narrowing simulation! Notice the colors really come out on everything and the skin glowing has actually subsided. (It should look even more natural at a +40-ish saturation target.)

This is so beautiful!! Thank you for sharing

poita said:

A quick preview, many thanks to the person scanning for me.

http://tinyurl.com/sotss

cherbetterbest said:

This is so beautiful!! Thank you for sharing

poita said:

A quick preview, many thanks to the person scanning for me.

http://tinyurl.com/sotss

Too bad I can’t see it.

It’s too bad that nightstalkerpoet thinks it’s really too bad about OracleBoy77 thinking it’s too bad.

"http://tinyurl.com/sotss" comes up with an error because it’s long-link of "https://www.wetransfer.com/downloads/7c5cf031e140d844bfff8bf329d1451820151110164419/b0f66a" (from 11/15) comes up expired.
(Perhaps poita may UL that clip again for those who missed it. For now, check out the few representative [and really nice!] screencaps on page 37.)

i’ve got it. why do people think this movie is racist? Black people singing after emanicpation is racist?

OmegaMattman said:

FrankT said:

It’s a sacrilege that they’d withold it though - it inspired Splash Mountain, did it not!?

Heck, I’d go further and say withholding it propogates a racist narrative.  The film takes place in a post-slavery South, focuses on the damage bigotry causes on an individual level, and ends with a message of acceptance and healing.  I don’t trust the motivations of anyone seeking to keep it from the public.

^ Excellent.

Spaced Ranger said:

I’m sorry. Maybe I’m alone here but I think this just looks really unnatural and unappealing. If I had a choice, I’d rather watch the somewhat muted colors of the raw scan than the overly boosted, glowing, unnatural skintone colors represented here.

This is not a criticism of your method or work, just of the result it produces on this particular film.

My demonstration wasn’t meant to be a final result – only a proof-of-concept of getting any film (including fade, bleached, different film stock) to look like the original “technicolor film”. (Normally, I would’ve posted the aim and procedure in detail, but didn’t due to my present time constraints [I hate when that happens]. Sorry if my abridge presentation didn’t convey that.) Of course, if used, the project team would fine-tune that approach for their desired result. Considering this is a Disney film, one would expect powerful colors and I would think Technicolor did just that.

The particular look of Technicolor is due to it’s use of independent color filters with a tighter primary-colors range than those embedded into the film itself, which were wider spectrum that produced a relatively muddier result.

Check out The American WideScreen Museum: Technicolor for the fascinating history and details of Technicolor.

has anyone heard anything new about the rumor that disney was selling the rights to criterion for a bluray release of this movie?

somebody might have, but it wasnt me.

timemeddler said:

has anyone heard anything new about the rumor that disney was selling the rights to criterion for a bluray release of this movie?

I haven’t heard anything of the sort but that sounds unlike something Disney would ever do. They don’t want the movie out there because they feel it will hurt their image (I know, it’s dumb, but that’s how they think). They have a beautiful scan of the film digitally archived and could do a quick restoration and limited release if they wanted to, but the fact is they don’t want it out there in any capacity. They wouldn’t sell it to another company to put it out. If they were ok with it being available to people, they would release it themselves.