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Heard from someone who’s seen it, he says it opens with a gunbarrel, so people can finally stop complaining about that.

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Yay!!! I think it was a valid complaint. The gun barrel opening was a tradition that went back to From Russia With Love, and is inspired by the opening credits from Dr. No. I always felt it set the perfect mood for a Bond movie. It never felt right that it wasn’t there in Casino Royal, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall. There was no reason to get rid of it.

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doubleofive said:

Heard from someone who’s seen it, he says it opens with a gunbarrel, so people can finally stop complaining about that.

Almost. It doesn’t do the moving-around white circle bit for no reason. It just fades to black.

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I am a big Bond fan not as much as SW but still a Bond fan nonetheless and I saw both SPECTRE and TFA and I have to say I think Episode VII is truly the best movie of 2015 and I was worried that Disney would make it so bad that SPECTRE stole the year away but luckily that didn’t happen 😃

By the way Han shot first.

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Warbler said:

Yay!!! I think it was a valid complaint. The gun barrel opening was a tradition that went back to From Russia With Love, and is inspired by the opening credits from Dr. No. I always felt it set the perfect mood for a Bond movie. It never felt right that it wasn’t there in Casino Royal, Quantum of Solace, and Skyfall. There was no reason to get rid of it.

Yeah I was glad to see it back as well. I have a feeling this will be Crieg’s last movie(I have no behind the scenes info on this so if I have missed something sorry)as it just feels like the end of the road for his version of Bond and there isn’t anywhere they could go in a sequel that I feel the general public would like. I mean that either have to kill off the girl from this movie(I am sorry I don’t remember her name but I have only seen the movie once) and have him go on a revenge mission and that is something that seems to happen to every action hero these days, or they have to show Bond settled down and then have him come back for some reason and they either have to have him not bed woman in that movie or have him cheat on the wife or girlfriend that he left MI6 for in the first place and I don’t think either of those moves would be popular with the general public or work for the character.

That said I really liked this movie. Like Skyfall before it the direction of the action struck just the right balance between the artistic and the modern and exciting, and I was always able to tell what was happening in the scenes. Every scene in this movie looks so polish and has a very classic film feel to it while not feeling like a time capsule. It’s hard to explain but I love the look of this and Skyfall because they look modern and yet classic at the same time and the two styles never seem to clash, they are just two of the best looking action movies I have ever seen.

The acting was strong and while the story was a little weak it was also fun when it had to be but didn’t forget to treat Bond as a character and not just an icon and it had just enough of the gadgets to feel like a Bond movie without going too far like something like Die another Day or some of the other films.

It wasn’t perfect but it did feel like the perfect goodbye to this version of Bond and I hope that is what it turns out to be.

I say this as someone who’s favorite film is OHMSS, who’s favorite Bond is Dalton, and who’s fifth favorite Bond movie is Moonraker, this was a really good Bond movie and it just worked for me. I will be getting it on Bluray as soon as it comes out.

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I really enjoyed Spectre too. I personally am a huge fan of the 70s and 80s Bond films (and I even really like the Brosnan ones), so I liked the sillyness and lightheartedness of the action scenes. That being said, the plot was pretty muddy, but not enough to get in the way of my enjoyment too much.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I really enjoyed Spectre too. I personally am a huge fan of the 70s and 80s Bond films (and I even really like the Brosnan ones), so I liked the sillyness and lightheartedness of the action scenes. That being said, the plot was pretty muddy, but not enough to get in the way of my enjoyment too much.

Yeah same here pretty much but I did like Tomorrow never dies and I think if Brosnan had been allowed to play the part the way he wanted the films would have been better.

I think in the post 24 world I have just accepted that the plots of anything spy related are always going to be confusing and have problems so I think that is why I put up with problems with the plots of Bond movies that I wouldn’t in any other movie. That and as you said the action scenes were a lot of fun and full of energy and what is more they looked really good and that is a rare combo these days so I think this film is tied with TFA at the moment as my favorite movie of 2015.

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I got all the films on blu ray as a birthday gift and I have been watching them all since (many of which for the first time). I’m trying to rank them as I go and I seriously underestimated the difficulty of it.

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My ranking as of today, it’ll change next time I watch one though - also note that I like all of these films except for Die Another Day, which is the only one I actually do not enjoy watching, even though it does have its moments.
1 From Russia with Love
2 Casino Royale
3 Dr. No
4 Skyfall
5 The World Is Not Enough
6 Goldfinger
7 The Spy Who Loved Me
8 The Living Daylights
9 Goldeneye
10 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
11 Octopussy
12 The Man with the Golden Gun
13 Licence to Kill
14 Moonraker
15 Spectre
16 Tomorrow Never Dies
17 Thunderball
18 Diamonds Are Forever
19 You Only Live Twice
20 For Your Eyes Only
21 Live and Let Die
22 A View to a Kill
23 Quantum of Solace
24 Die Another Day

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Just finished Skyfall and my list is complete for now. I haven’t seen Spectre yet. Also note that I enjoy all of these films except Die Another Day and A View To A Kill. The rest are amusing at worst.

From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Casino Royale
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
Skyfall
Dr. No
Goldeneye
The Living Daylights
The Spy Who Loved Me
Thunderball
Licence To Kill
For Your Eyes Only
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World Is Not Enough
The Man With The Golden Gun
Diamonds Are Forever
Moonraker
You Only Live Twice
Quantum of Solace
Octopussy
Live And Let Die
A View To A Kill
Die Another Day

I just realized that most of the Moore films ended up towards the bottom of my list. Odd, I quite liked Moore himself.

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I think most people would disagree with my extremely high placement of The World Is Not Enough, which has just always been one of my all time favorites in the franchise.

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Any ranking of the Bond series is going to be controversial. WISNE is very low on my list, but we all have our biases.

  1. From Russia With Love
  2. Goldfinger
  3. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
  4. Skyfall
  5. Casino Royale
  6. The Spy Who Loved Me
  7. The Living Daylights
  8. Goldeneye
  9. You Only Live Twice
  10. Spectre
  11. Thunderball
  12. Diamonds Are Forever
  13. Live And Let Die
  14. Dr. No
  15. For Your Eyes Only
  16. License to Kill
  17. Tomorrow Never Dies
  18. A View To A Kill
  19. The Man With The Golden Gun
  20. Quantum of Solace
  21. Die Another Day
  22. Moonraker
  23. The World Is Not Enough
  24. Octopussy
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DominicCobb said:

Any ranking of the Bond series is going to be controversial. WISNE is very low on my list, but we all have our biases.

Yeah, sometimes seeing other people’s lists is really bizarre. I see lists with OHMSS at the very bottom and, while I of course respect their opinion, I just can’t wrap my head around it.

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I think what usually confuses people about my list is the seeming inconsistency of the ranking, like having From Russia with Love at number 1 and then putting The World Is Not Enough ahead of Goldfinger. My list revolves around nostalgia a lot, which is why Octopussy is ahead of what many would say are superior films like Thunderball. I will say that I really don’t understand the disdain for the World Is Not Enough. I know it isn’t great but I think it’s a well executed action movie; perhaps convoluted but I wouldn’t say it’s any more convoluted than Spectre.

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I agree with those above that the disdain for The World is Not Enough is unwarranted. Brosnan was top form, and Robert Carlyle was terrifying!

I will say that Spectre was and is a massive disappointment to me. A mish-mash of different eras of Bond, I’d place it among the lowest five of the franchise.

For what it’s worth, this is my list.

From Russia with Love
Casino Royale
The Living Daylights
On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
Dr. No
Goldeneye
Skyfall
Goldfinger
Live and Let Die
Licence to Kill
The World is Not Enough
Thunderball
Moonraker
You Only Live Twice
Die Another Day
For Your Eyes Only
Quantum of Solace
Tomorrow Never Dies
Diamonds are Forever
Spectre
A View to a Kill
The Spy who Loved Me
The Man with the Golden Gun
Octopussy

Not a big Roger Moore man myself.

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moviefreakedmind said:

I think most people would disagree with my extremely high placement of The World Is Not Enough, which has just always been one of my all time favorites in the franchise.

The World is Not Enough is actually my favorite of the Brosnan films. From Russia With Love is the superior story of all the movies, perhaps because the story is so true to all the intricacies of the novel, but I think I enjoy watching Thunderball more–it’s just fun. Generally not a huge fan of the Moore films–recently rematched the Man With the Golden Gun, first Moore in a while–and remembered why I stopped watching those.

I also don’t understand the criticism Spectre has received. I didn’t find it particularly convoluted, and I enjoyed the references to films past.

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Well since so many others have posted their 007 rankings, I might as well post mine. I’d have to rewatch them all to give a more accurate ranking, since I’ve seen a bunch of them only once.

  1. Goldfinger
  2. GoldenEye
  3. Dr. No
  4. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
  5. The Man with the Golden Gun
  6. Casino Royale (2006)
  7. From Russia with Love
  8. Casino Royale (1967)
  9. Skyfall
  10. Spectre
  11. Thunderball
  12. The Living Daylights
  13. License to Kill
  14. Octopussy
  15. Live and Let Die
  16. Tomorrow Never Dies
  17. For Your Eyes Only
  18. Casino Royale (1954)
  19. The Spy Who Loved Me
  20. A View to a Kill
  21. Diamonds are Forever
  22. Quantum of Solace
  23. Moonraker
  24. Never Say Never Again
  25. The World is Not Enough
  26. Die Another Day

(Letterbox’d list here: http://letterboxd.com/neglify19/list/007-films-ranked/)

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Damn, Neg with the combo breaker on FRWL at number one (in fairness I was surprised to see so many put it at number one instead of Goldfinger).

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I will say that I really don’t understand the disdain for the World Is Not Enough. I know it isn’t great but I think it’s a well executed action movie; perhaps convoluted but I wouldn’t say it’s any more convoluted than Spectre.

No disdain from me. I rank it low but that doesn’t mean I don’t like it. It’s just on the lower end (also my bottom five or so are mostly ones that I’ve only seen once or twice and haven’t seen again just because I didn’t care for them as much, so they’re kind of in flux). I just find it kind of dull (and Christmas Jones suuuuucks).