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The Rise of Failures
ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss! — Page 35
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"It was I who allowed the Alliance to know the location of the Shield Generator. It is quite safe from your pitiful little band. An entire legion of my best troops await them. Oh, I’m afraid the deflector shields will be quite operational when your friends arrive."
I’m with Frink on this. The Emperor is making it out as if his best legion of troops await them at said location, so his VERY best troops should be there on standby. Also, this means the Emperor should had already informed his troops ahead of time that a Rebel strike team was heading to the Shield Generator. Trap, right?
Also, this is the damn shield generator control point that’s protecting the monolith DEATH STAR! It’s not some throwaway job to be left to so-so trained troops.
Unless, I’m getting something wrong here. Maybe the Emperor had the actual Shield Dish being heavily guarded and not the control room for it where apparently blowing that part up also blows up the dish…?
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So the Emperor barely guarded the only thing on the moon worth guarding?
The whole thing was a trap. It’s a trap! The Emperor knew what the Rebels were doing there.
I love all the insane ideas you guys are coming up with trying to defend the idea that the Endor battle makes sense.
But sure, I’m the one who didn’t watch the movie.
Maybe you watched it but you sure didn’t get the very basic stuff. It was a trap for 10 rebel operatives whom Vader allowed to pass in the stolen shuttle. A company-sized unit was a big overkill.
You’re the one who thinks most of the troops were off sipping lemonade on the non-shield generator parts of the planet. Again, why?
I didn’t say that. I assumed you had some common sense. The complex/area seemed to be quite big. The other companies obviously guarded other perimeters (main door, potential other side doors, landing platform, etc.). Wherever the tiny rebel group tried to make their move there would be a company-sized unit waiting for them.
How big is this complex? The size of the planet? That must explain why the rest of the Legion never showed up.
It was huge, judging from the distance between the landing platform and shield emitter unit.
Surely big enough for other companies not be able to show up in a several minutes, the time it took from the capture to entering.
Why am I arguing with someone who seems to think the Ewoks are well-executed?
You are not arguing. You are being lectured about common sense.
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I’m with Frink on this. The Emperor is making it out as if his best legion of troops await them at said location, so his VERY best troops should be there on standby. Also, this means the Emperor should had already informed his troops ahead of time that a Rebel strike team was heading to the Shield Generator. Trap, right?
Yes it is a trap. But he doesn’t know where exactly they will strike. And as I already pointed out the obvious, the complex is huge and the legion had to be dispersed to make a trap effective at each of many potential infiltration points. Or should he just put everyone at one door and hope for the best? It doesn’t take a general to see these obvious things. All it takes is common sense.
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So the Emperor barely guarded the only thing on the moon worth guarding?
The whole thing was a trap. It’s a trap! The Emperor knew what the Rebels were doing there.
I love all the insane ideas you guys are coming up with trying to defend the idea that the Endor battle makes sense.
But sure, I’m the one who didn’t watch the movie.
Maybe you watched it but you sure didn’t get the very basic stuff. It was a trap for 10 rebel operatives whom Vader allowed to pass in the stolen shuttle. A company-sized unit was a big overkill.
You’re the one who thinks most of the troops were off sipping lemonade on the non-shield generator parts of the planet. Again, why?
I didn’t say that. I assumed you had some common sense. The complex/area seemed to be quite big. The other companies obviously guarded other perimeters (main door, potential other side doors, landing platform, etc.). Wherever the tiny rebel group tried to make their move there would be a company-sized unit waiting for them.
How big is this complex? The size of the planet? That must explain why the rest of the Legion never showed up.
It was huge, judging from the distance between the landing platform and shield emitter unit.
Surely big enough for other companies not be able to show up in a several minutes, the time it took from the capture to entering.
LOL
You are seeing what you want to in order to support your position. I am done arguing this stupid point. If you like the Ewoks, feel free to continue your enjoyment of them.
Why am I arguing with someone who seems to think the Ewoks are well-executed?
You are not arguing. You are being lectured about common sense.
You are a child.
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Ewoks are great. Anyways, is there a high fidelity image of this anywhere? It’d make an amazing desktop wallpaper. I love these Endor scenic images with the bases in them. I have a printed night time one somewhere that actually was taken out of a library book by a friend when we were young teens. Apparently I suggested he do it, or at least that’s what he told me when I borrowed the book from the library many years later and was upset that someone had taken the SW pictures out of it. Then he let me have them.
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Isn’t it possible that the Imperial General on Endor was a baffoon and/or a traitor?
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The ewoks helped win because it served the purpose of the story, why isn’t it believable? Vietnam did well against a super power with primitive weaponry in comparison. Also the whole saga is fantasy so the realism isn’t even present in the first place.
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Ewoks are great. Anyways, is there a high fidelity image of this anywhere? It’d make an amazing desktop wallpaper. I love these Endor scenic images with the bases in them. I have a printed night time one somewhere that actually was taken out of a library book by a friend when we were young teens. Apparently I suggested he do it, or at least that’s what he told me when I borrowed the book from the library many years later and was upset that someone had taken the SW pictures out of it. Then he let me have them.
Lookie what I found.
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If you like the Ewoks, feel free to continue your enjoyment of them.
I don’t particularly like ewoks. It is just that the rebel victory is completely feasible. Especially when compared to the other unlikely stuff in the trilogy.
Why am I arguing with someone who seems to think the Ewoks are well-executed?
You are not arguing. You are being lectured about common sense.
You are a child.
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Delicieuxz, I agree. Endor has some amazing visuals. I always loved those matte paintings.
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Delicieuxz, I agree. Endor has some amazing visuals.
Aren’t you the one who doesn’t think Skellig Michael has any place in a Star Wars film??
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It was great that the only version I had seen of it for the first few years was a VHS recorded off of a TV broadcast that omitted the droid torture scene and the scene where threepio explains the entire trilogy complete with sound effects to the ewok village. When I finally saw the official version a few years later I didn’t understand why those scenes were necessary and have since come to see them as some of the worst scenes in the entire OT, so whoever edited down for time for TV made some good decisions.
Same here! I had a copy that was taped off TV, had to FFW through the commercials and everything. Both those scenes were edited out, as were some others, such as when that guy consoles the Rancor-keeper after the Rancor dies.
That droid torture scene… bleh.
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The millennium falcon navigating an asteroid field is believable…
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Delicieuxz, I agree. Endor has some amazing visuals.
Aren’t you the one who doesn’t think Skellig Michael has any place in a Star Wars film??
Yes, that is me. At least not in the state it was shot in TFA. It was ugly. At least they could wait for some better weather.
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Tfa has no place in anything…apart from the rushes bin
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The ewoks helped win because it served the purpose of the story, why isn’t it believable? Vietnam did well against a super power with primitive weaponry in comparison. Also the whole saga is fantasy so the realism isn’t even present in the first place.
Oh ok. So you didn’t have any problem with these elements of TFA either.
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Isn’t it possible that the Imperial General on Endor was a baffoon and/or a traitor?
Is that in the movie?
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The ewoks helped win because it served the purpose of the story, why isn’t it believable? Vietnam did well against a super power with primitive weaponry in comparison. Also the whole saga is fantasy so the realism isn’t even present in the first place.
Oh ok. So you didn’t have any problem with these elements of TFA either.
Had no problem with the fantasy just the actual film as you already know 😦
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If you like the Ewoks, feel free to continue your enjoyment of them.I don’t particularly like ewoks. It is just that the rebel victory is completely feasible. Especially when compared to the other unlikely stuff in the trilogy.
Lololololololol
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In fact i did have a problem with the fantasy…as the magic was non existent in tfa… When you compare it the true trilogy.
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The ewoks helped win because it served the purpose of the story, why isn’t it believable? Vietnam did well against a super power with primitive weaponry in comparison. Also the whole saga is fantasy so the realism isn’t even present in the first place.
Oh ok. So you didn’t have any problem with these elements of TFA either.
Had no problem with the fantasy just the actual film as you already know 😦
Sorry, I can’t keep track of you, imperialscum, Alderaan, and Smoking Lizard. You all have complaints about TFA that are ridiculous on various levels, and I can’t keep it all straight. Guilty as charged.
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My complaint ridiculous? The film isn’t very good is my complaint! I watched it a third time…and it gets worse every time… I can watch the OT over and over for all its faults they are timeless classics… Tfa will not stand the test of time it’s a forgettable action movie with star wars references.
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Delicieuxz, I agree. Endor has some amazing visuals.
Aren’t you the one who doesn’t think Skellig Michael has any place in a Star Wars film??
Yes, that is me. At least not in the state it was shot in TFA. It was ugly. At least they could wait for some better weather.
This is truly baffling.
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It was great that the only version I had seen of it for the first few years was a VHS recorded off of a TV broadcast that omitted the droid torture scene and the scene where threepio explains the entire trilogy complete with sound effects to the ewok village. When I finally saw the official version a few years later I didn’t understand why those scenes were necessary and have since come to see them as some of the worst scenes in the entire OT, so whoever edited down for time for TV made some good decisions.
Same here! I had a copy that was taped off TV, had to FFW through the commercials and everything. Both those scenes were edited out, as were some others, such as when that guy consoles the Rancor-keeper after the Rancor dies.
That droid torture scene… bleh.
Yes I remember the rancor trainer crying wasn’t in the one I had taped either. Its like the guys editing it for time did their own fan edit of it and emoved a lot of the worst scenes. I remember part of the scene when Leia meets Wicket was also cut, I don’t think they showed the stormtroopers or how Leia dropped her helmet…it just cut after Wicket hears something and cut to commercial I believe so the scene when they find her helmet didn’t make much sense to me. Crazy I can remember all this from a VHS I haven’t watched in over 20 years.