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There was a lot more wrong in the “late” version of SWG that makes the Watto design choice small beans 😉

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Also, SWG taught me how to properly spell “wookiee”. There was a command to give someone a big hug which was “/wookieehug”. Since then, the extra “e” will always be remembered. So it’s amusing to see the typo posted a lot in this forum and poor SilverWook has to subtly correct them.

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Thank the maker he didn’t go with SilverWookiee.

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Did anyone else not understand that Luke was a moisture farmer and thought his family just grew plants like normal farmers when they were a kid? I think Han Solo’s line about traveling through hyperspace not being like dusting crops may have had something to do with this.

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I thought Owen sidelined in mail order kinky whips which Luke had to keep clean.

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Bingowings said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Steven_TheFarce said:

Hey fellow galactians! I am Steven Hightower! Acclaimed professional film youtube reviewer. Here is my review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. My opinion is not only clamored for, but asked for too.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/d93SbwRBUJY

Did anyone actually watch this? 'Twas beautiful…

It was posted before and it’s also not funny so unearned appalling bad taste.

Um…right now you sound like Bosk.

Not enough people read the EU.

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hydrospanner said:

Did anyone else not understand that Luke was a moisture farmer and thought his family just grew plants like normal farmers when they were a kid? I think Han Solo’s line about traveling through hyperspace not being like dusting crops may have had something to do with this.

I figured they used the vaporators to get moisture to then use to grow food, perhaps including what we see Beru cooking.

I know I’ve made some very poor decisions recently.

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LuckyGungan2001 said:

Bingowings said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Steven_TheFarce said:

Hey fellow galactians! I am Steven Hightower! Acclaimed professional film youtube reviewer. Here is my review of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. My opinion is not only clamored for, but asked for too.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/d93SbwRBUJY

Did anyone actually watch this? 'Twas beautiful…

It was posted before and it’s also not funny so unearned appalling bad taste.

Um…right now you sound like Bosk.

Except it wasn’t funny.

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Below is a link to a little half hour documentary ESPN aired recently. It’s about the lightsaber duels in Star Wars and the real world martial art - kendo - that was one of the key influences in developing them. The part on the OT is quite good. The part on the PT is absolute bupkis as nothing in the PT even remotely resembles actual kendo. I laughed when George trotted out the tired old “faster and more intense.” And I almost choked when Nick Gillard demonstrated his “kendo” and then how he “evolved” it into the prequel baton twirling (his kendo demonstration was utter garbage and not even close to proper technique - he didn’t even grip the sword correctly, which is something even a novice with only a few lessons should be able to do).

But it’s kind of nice to see this considering I’ve enjoyed having several discussions about the sword fights in Star Wars both here on OT.com and elsewhere. Especially because I’ve often related and used my own personal experience with Olympic style fencing and nearly a decade of practicing Kendo to try to enhance the conversation and educate anyone who may not know much about sword combat. And this doc does a pretty good job giving succinct visual representations of things I’ve often tried to describe with words. Just ignore all the garbage about the prequels being anything remotely like kendo b/c that part is total BS.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60tivujA8_E

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What the hell is this doing on ESPN? I watch ESPN for athletes getting arrested.

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TV’s Frink said:

What the hell is this doing on ESPN? I watch ESPN for athletes getting arrested.

Corporate synergy. Dinsey owns ESPN. 😉

Where were you in '77?

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Just remembered something that disturbed me as a kid from the 1990s EU.

Back in the 90s, Tales from Jabba’s Palace featured the story of the B’omarr monks, guiys so dedicated to a life of ascetic contemplation that they harvest their own brains and put the tissue into mobile spider-droids … as well as the brains of anyone foolish enough (or unlucky enough) to stumble upon them.

As I recall, Bib Fortuna had this happen to him, though he managed to steal another Twi’lek host body later on.

When I first read about it, the idea of being physically removed from your body and all physical sensation, but still remaining conscious, struck me as horrifically awful.

Now that I’m older, I think those spider monks are creepy as hell.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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Making a ‘perfect’ Star Wars crawl is more tedious than I thought. Font size… font spacing… font stretching… etc

I pulled a Youtube video that had the ESB crawl and overlayed with low opacity on my SW Crawl attempt. Things don’t exactly stay lined up all the way through, which is kinda weird.

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canofhumdingers said:

Below is a link to a little half hour documentary ESPN aired recently. It’s about the lightsaber duels in Star Wars and the real world martial art - kendo - that was one of the key influences in developing them. The part on the OT is quite good. The part on the PT is absolute bupkis as nothing in the PT even remotely resembles actual kendo. I laughed when George trotted out the tired old “faster and more intense.” And I almost choked when Nick Gillard demonstrated his “kendo” and then how he “evolved” it into the prequel baton twirling (his kendo demonstration was utter garbage and not even close to proper technique - he didn’t even grip the sword correctly, which is something even a novice with only a few lessons should be able to do).

I’ve noticed that while Bob Anderson’s noted as an accomplished fencer and fight chereographer, Gillard’s only ever been described as a stunt man/coordinator. Makes me wonder if the guy actually has any real knowledge of swordplay whatsoever.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

canofhumdingers said:

Below is a link to a little half hour documentary ESPN aired recently. It’s about the lightsaber duels in Star Wars and the real world martial art - kendo - that was one of the key influences in developing them. The part on the OT is quite good. The part on the PT is absolute bupkis as nothing in the PT even remotely resembles actual kendo. I laughed when George trotted out the tired old “faster and more intense.” And I almost choked when Nick Gillard demonstrated his “kendo” and then how he “evolved” it into the prequel baton twirling (his kendo demonstration was utter garbage and not even close to proper technique - he didn’t even grip the sword correctly, which is something even a novice with only a few lessons should be able to do).

I’ve noticed that while Bob Anderson’s noted as an accomplished fencer and fight chereographer, Gillard’s only ever been described as a stunt man/coordinator. Makes me wonder if the guy actually has any real knowledge of swordplay whatsoever.

My educated guess would be no. If anything, he might have some knowledge of some form of Kung fu, as that’s what a lot of his twirly spinny moves most closely resemble in my eyes. But I’m no expert on Kung fu and have never studied it in any form. What very little of it I have seen, specifically regarding sword use, often seems more flashy acrobatics than genuine combat. Much like the prequels… Heck, ray Park (Darth Maul) is a Kung fu guy.

But strictly speaking about Nick Gillard, I’ve only seen little clips of him in interviews like this and behind the scenes stuff, but making a judgement solely on that info I’d have to guess he doesn’t know a thing about real sword fighting. There’s just too many things in his choreography that are blatantly showy and have no remote basis in anything that actually works (such as holding your sword with one hand behind your back at 90 degrees to the incoming sword while you do a pirouette and thinking you have a snowball’s chance in hell of actually stopping that attack and not being severely wounded). His choreography often makes the same mistake that so many novices make - assuming that just because you put your sword between you and your opponent’s as he attacks then you’ve successfully blocked his attack. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve sparred with someone new to kendo and still struck them even though they held their sword up in my way. You can generate so much force so easily with proper technique that their sword just bounces out of the way and you still make a strong cut into the target. He also has his opponents turn their backs on each other with spins WAY too much to get away with, IMO.

It’s not entirely unheard of to spin past your opponent, exposing your back to them, in sword fighting (there are some very specific instances in kendo where it’s the fastest way to get past your opponent and get your sword pointed back at them again) but it is generally a VERY bad idea with terrible consequences. Luke does it once or twice that I can remember in the OT, but at least one of those times (in ESB) is actually credible because he’s pinned against a wall and ducks under Vader’s attack as he spins away and out onto the catwalk.

I think a good litmus test might be to see if Gillard has ever choreographed any other movie sword fights and see how they compare to the prequels. I’ve never bothered to look into that…

Oh, and I just have to say I LOVE what JJ says about which are his favorite lightsaber duels and why towards the end of that show! As he kind of implies, in any movie conflict (whether swords are involved or not) the characters and the drama between them is SO MUCH more important than any choreography. It’s the same concept as that line from Lucas about “a special effect with no story isn’t very interesting.”

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As overused and unnecessary as the spins in the PT are the absolute worst spin in the whole saga has to be Ben in ANH…

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TavorX said:

Making a ‘perfect’ Star Wars crawl is more tedious than I thought. Font size… font spacing… font stretching… etc

I pulled a Youtube video that had the ESB crawl and overlayed with low opacity on my SW Crawl attempt. Things don’t exactly stay lined up all the way through, which is kinda weird.

The old fashioned ways are best. 😉

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^Heh, I came across that photo a few days ago for the first time. I personally would love to make a crawl old-fashioned that way, but I don’t have the equipment sadly nor would I be sure of the whole process involved.

Cheap knock off clones on your computer… hooray…!

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^^Yeah, that one always made me cringe.

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DominicCobb said:

As overused and unnecessary as the spins in the PT are the absolute worst spin in the whole saga has to be Ben in ANH…

LOL. I’ve hated that spin ever since I first noticed it.