What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS — Page 20

Frank your Majesty said:

Why? Because it’s not explained in every detail while the First Order launches an attack?

No. Because it just is.

And “because it’s not explained in every detail…”?

How about because it’s not explained at all?!

Smoking Lizard said:

Frank your Majesty said:

If the tunnels intention was to throw everything out, why didn’t it end at the bottom of Cloud City? Why was it necessary to have another tunnel in the wall that opens conditionally? We don’t even know what triggered the hatch to open, was it Luke’s weight or was it just bad timing (just like it was bad timing that the trash compactor starts with our heros inside)?

A lot of discussion to skirt around the obvious: That Maz having Luke’s original lightsaber is silly.

I think it would have been a better idea to have Rey find the saber whilst scavenging junk, rather than the Maz scene which was purely a device to bring a saber into the narrative, Maz giving Rey the magical gift (transference).

Frank your Majesty said:

So the lightsaber being found on Bespin and then sold, going from one owner to another until someone close to the Jedi acquires it is too far fetched? It going from Bespin to Jakku without anyone being interested in it at all would be an even bigger plot convienence than anything in the actual movie.

Rey isn’t a Jedi plus as i have already said Luke has bought a new saber from the shop for Jedi so why would he actually give a fuck about his old one that he assumes is lost.

I always thought Luke guided himself into that shaft on the sidewall thing. I guess as a kid it didn’t occur to me that he was possibly choosing suicide over joining Vader and that he planned to fall into the shaft to escape. I thought if he continued to fall he would have just hit solid ground at some point. I never really understood exactly what purpose the tunnel served and as a kid found the whole sequence to be kind of weird, but apparently everyone here is an expert on the inner workings of Cloud City.

Bosk said:

I think it would have been a better idea to have Rey find the saber whilst scavenging junk, rather than the Maz scene which was purely a device to bring a saber into the narrative, Maz giving Rey the magical gift (transference).

Agree that would be better, but still too convenient. Even better would be that Rey finds a lightsaber while scavenging. Not Luke’s.

Smoking Lizard said:

Bosk said:

I think it would have been a better idea to have Rey find the saber whilst scavenging junk, rather than the Maz scene which was purely a device to bring a saber into the narrative, Maz giving Rey the magical gift (transference).

Agree that would be better, but still too convenient. Even better would be that Rey finds a lightsaber while scavenging. Not Luke’s.

Yes that’s what I meant, not Luke’s it’s too far fetched and as I said above irrelevant because Luke has a new shiny one in Jedi. In fact I don’t think there should have been a light saber in her hands at all, it could have been another anh rip off for part 2 where Luke could have given her his after training her how to use the force/light saber …oh wait that’s already been done, lets just make her able to do all that from the off.

SilverWook said:

The saber ending on Jakku seems less likely than ending up in the hands of a barkeep. Maz gets a lot of strangers from all corners of the galaxy passing through her establishment. Someone could have sold her the saber, if only to pay off their tab.

See Bosk’s reply above yours.

SilverWook said:

The saber ending on Jakku seems less likely than ending up in the hands of a barkeep. Maz gets a lot of strangers from all corners of the galaxy passing through her establishment. Someone could have sold her the saber, if only to pay off their tab.

and put it in a very similar box to that what OB1 had in his ‘cave’. I think I actually preferred the leaked idea that the opening shot was a light saber spinning in space and then landing in Jakku (Superman), where Rey is scavenging and notices the impact and goes to investigate.

As much as I loved the movie, one thing felt odd.

The music isn’t that memorable, maybe it’s because I’ve only seen the film once so far but eh. I can remember Rey’s theme and that’s it, even the prequels soundtrack was more memorable and I find myself humming it once in a while.

I’m not saying the music was bad, but it isn’t memorable to me. I may end up loving and remembering it when I see it again and when I buy the soundtrack.

Bosk said:
I think I actually preferred the leaked idea that the opening shot was a light saber spinning in space and then landing in Jakku (Superman), where Rey is scavenging and notices the impact and goes to investigate.

I actually really like your idea – Rey is still of very humble origins, she’s scavenging one day, finds a lightsaber, ignites it. She’s heard the stories of the Jedi and the heroics of Luke Skywalker…she becomes intrigued…that, actually, has the makings of a really, really good story.

Bosk said:

SilverWook said:

The saber ending on Jakku seems less likely than ending up in the hands of a barkeep. Maz gets a lot of strangers from all corners of the galaxy passing through her establishment. Someone could have sold her the saber, if only to pay off their tab.

and put it in a very similar box to that what OB1 had in his ‘cave’. I think I actually preferred the leaked idea that the opening shot was a light saber spinning in space and then landing in Jakku (Superman), where Rey is scavenging and notices the impact and goes to investigate.

And then you and your elk (intentional misuse) would bitch they ripped off yet another movie.

Swiftburn said:

As much as I loved the movie, one thing felt odd.

The music isn’t that memorable, maybe it’s because I’ve only seen the film once so far but eh. I can remember Rey’s theme and that’s it, even the prequels soundtrack was more memorable and I find myself humming it once in a while.

I’m not saying the music was bad, but it isn’t memorable to me. I may end up loving and remembering it when I see it again and when I buy the soundtrack.

It was by far the weakest and confused as Rey had her own theme and Luke’s, it’s been said that JJ interfered with JW’s magic making and tbh a lot of it doesn’t appear to be his work?

Smoking Lizard said:

Bosk said:
I think I actually preferred the leaked idea that the opening shot was a light saber spinning in space and then landing in Jakku (Superman), where Rey is scavenging and notices the impact and goes to investigate.

I actually really like your idea – Rey is still of very humble origins, she’s scavenging one day, finds a lightsaber, ignites it. She’s heard the stories of the Jedi and the heroics of Luke Skywalker…she becomes intrigued…that, actually, has the makings of a really, really good story.

Cheers , I ripped off Superman

Bosk said:

Cheers , I ripped off Superman

No, not that one. The idea of Rey just finding a random lightsaber one day.

Smoking Lizard said:

Bosk said:

Cheers , I ripped off Superman

No, not that one. The idea of Rey just finding a random lightsaber one day.

Okay it lands in a melted state and Rey finds it on her scavenging travels,not realising what it is, repairs it and makes it more powerful and then becomes intrigued with the force and the backstories and realises she has a natural ability with the saber, yet to realise that she is indeed force sensitive.

Bosk said:

Okay it lands in a melted state and Rey finds it on her scavenging travels,not realising what it is, repairs it and makes it more powerful and then becomes intrigued with the force and the backstories and realises she has a natural ability with the saber, yet to realise that she is indeed force sensitive.

Or she just finds it one day partially buried in the dirt. We don’t know whose it was. Some Jedi, maybe, who died in the Clone Wars, or something. Its origin is unknown. She finds it one day, and it changes her life.

SilverWook said:

You two should write a fan script. Seems to be the only healthy way to get it out of your system. 😉

Ha ha. Yes. And then we’ll make a fan film. Only problem is, I don’t think we could book Daisy Ridley. She is uber famous now.

Smoking Lizard said:

Bosk said:

Okay it lands in a melted state and Rey finds it on her scavenging travels,not realising what it is, repairs it and makes it more powerful and then becomes intrigued with the force and the backstories and realises she has a natural ability with the saber, yet to realise that she is indeed force sensitive.

Or she just finds it one day partially buried in the dirt. We don’t know whose it was. Some Jedi, maybe, who died in the Clone Wars, or something. Its origin is unknown. She finds it one day, and it changes her life.

Cue the ‘helper’ whilst selling the crap she collects another strange hooded seller notices the saber on her belt as does the bar seller who asks to buy it, she refuses, he contacts his associates (as in TFA with BB8) to get the saber. A she walks away we see an attempt to take the saber from Rey thwarted by the mystery character who produces a light saber and strikes them down. First she feels threatened, until the mystery character assures her she is safe.