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imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

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TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

The shooting script refers to it as a hovel.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hovel
If you want to take it up with George, be my guest. 😉

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Where were you in '77?

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Bosk said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Bosk said:

Even the shitty prequels showed Younglings practicing with sabres

That’s one of the reasons why they are shitty. Therefore, they shouldn’t be taken into account, as they contradict the OT.

And tfa doesn’t? They’re trying to return a lost light sabre to luke, when he’s already replaced it in jedi. Hopefully he will say to rey I’ve already got one so you keep that one.

I thought they were just trying to find him. As were the bad guys.

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SilverWook said:

Bosk said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Bosk said:

Even the shitty prequels showed Younglings practicing with sabres

That’s one of the reasons why they are shitty. Therefore, they shouldn’t be taken into account, as they contradict the OT.

And tfa doesn’t? They’re trying to return a lost light sabre to luke, when he’s already replaced it in jedi. Hopefully he will say to rey I’ve already got one so you keep that one.

I thought they were just trying to find him. As were the bad guys.

Why is there so much emphasis on returning his lost sabre? She holds it out to him for what seems like ages at the end.

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imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

Regardless of whether or not it’s named within the film, in both the OUT and the SE it’s clearly an artificial structure, not a cave.

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Bosk said:

SilverWook said:

Bosk said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Bosk said:

Even the shitty prequels showed Younglings practicing with sabres

That’s one of the reasons why they are shitty. Therefore, they shouldn’t be taken into account, as they contradict the OT.

And tfa doesn’t? They’re trying to return a lost light sabre to luke, when he’s already replaced it in jedi. Hopefully he will say to rey I’ve already got one so you keep that one.

I thought they were just trying to find him. As were the bad guys.

Why is there so much emphasis on returning his lost sabre? She holds it out to him for what seems like ages at the end.

I took that to mean “please train me”?

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DevilWing said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

Regardless of whether or not it’s named within the film, in both the OUT and the SE it’s clearly an artificial structure, not a cave.

Ffs the cave comment was beacuse the inside resembles a cave, not because he lives in one.

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SilverWook said:

Bosk said:

SilverWook said:

Bosk said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Bosk said:

Even the shitty prequels showed Younglings practicing with sabres

That’s one of the reasons why they are shitty. Therefore, they shouldn’t be taken into account, as they contradict the OT.

And tfa doesn’t? They’re trying to return a lost light sabre to luke, when he’s already replaced it in jedi. Hopefully he will say to rey I’ve already got one so you keep that one.

I thought they were just trying to find him. As were the bad guys.

Why is there so much emphasis on returning his lost sabre? She holds it out to him for what seems like ages at the end.

I took that to mean “please train me”?

Seems more like heres’ your light sabre now sort The first order out.

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Bosk said:

DevilWing said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

Regardless of whether or not it’s named within the film, in both the OUT and the SE it’s clearly an artificial structure, not a cave.

Ffs the cave comment was beacuse the inside resembles a cave, not because he lives in one.

Your logic in this thread resembles logic in your head, not because it is logic to anyone else.

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TV’s Frink said:

Bosk said:

DevilWing said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

Regardless of whether or not it’s named within the film, in both the OUT and the SE it’s clearly an artificial structure, not a cave.

Ffs the cave comment was beacuse the inside resembles a cave, not because he lives in one.

Your logic in this thread resembles logic in your head, not because it is logic to anyone else.

No Frink sorry, it’s just you.

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imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bosk said:

DevilWing said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

Regardless of whether or not it’s named within the film, in both the OUT and the SE it’s clearly an artificial structure, not a cave.

Ffs the cave comment was beacuse the inside resembles a cave, not because he lives in one.

Your logic in this thread resembles logic in your head, not because it is logic to anyone else.

No Frink sorry, it’s just you.

Ignore him he’s a true keyboard warrior

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Bosk said:

DevilWing said:

imperialscum said:

SilverWook said:

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

An OT “junky” who referred to Obi’s hut as a cave? Interesting.

It is never named in the film. So for a purist cave, hut or house is all the same. I actually like cave. It is kinda romantic. 😃

http://www.starwars.com/databank/obi-wan-s-house

In the film…

Regardless of whether or not it’s named within the film, in both the OUT and the SE it’s clearly an artificial structure, not a cave.

Ffs the cave comment was beacuse the inside resembles a cave, not because he lives in one.

My post was in response to imperialscum. Calm down.

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Smoking Lizard said:

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Is Bespin a gas giant?
I thought it was just rich in a gas that was mined there.
It’s certainly got a breathable atmosphere (unless there is some sort of protective bubble around the city.

From StarWars.com:

An immense gas giant surrounded by a number of moons, the planet contains a band of habitable atmosphere among its endless clouds. In this stratum of life, enterprising prospectors have established floating mining complexes devoted to extracting valuable gasses from deep within the planet. The most well known of these ventures is the opulent Cloud City, formerly under the administration of Lando Calrissian. During the tail end of the Galactic Civil War, the Empire garrisoned Bespin and took over Cloud City, though the outpost and the planet enjoyed freedom after the defeat of the Emperor at the Battle of Endor.

Okay so scientifically highly improbable but it’s Star Wars 😄

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I don’t think the gas giant thing has to be an issue. Everyone’s assuming that the saber fell far enough for its recovery to be implausible, but who’s to say it didn’t land on a mining platform further down in the atmosphere? The Force has done weirder things.

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If we only had a lightsaber reaction shot like in the prequels to clarify this situation, ESB is such a stupid movie, we’re not explained at all what’s going on.

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Luke manages to fall off and survive… it’s really not that implausible that a lightsaber would do as well.

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CrazyH said:

Luke manages to fall off and survive… it’s really not that implausible that a lightsaber would do as well.

The side tunnel Luke is sucked in seems like it serves as a garbage disposal. He was about to be swept into the planet if he didn’t grab the antenna thing. Lightsabre would, as a normal garbage, fly into the gas giant and melt/disintegrate.

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Only if this tunnel’s intention is to throw everything out that enters it. Luke is thrown out in the middle of the tunnel, so we don’t know where it leads and if the lightsaber couldn’t have gone all the way through it and not be thrown out.

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And as I pointed out, there are multiple tunnels shown.

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Frank your Majesty said:

Only if this tunnel’s intention is to throw everything out that enters it. Luke is thrown out in the middle of the tunnel, so we don’t know where it leads and if the lightsaber couldn’t have gone all the way through it and not be thrown out.

Of course there is an intention to throw things out. First of all, there was a mechanism that sucked Luke sideways (I guess to prevent stuff falling into some machinery further down the big vertical shaft). Secondly, the hatch inside the small side tunnel opened when it detected Luke and threw him into another tunnel with a direct vertical opening toward the planet centre. The intention of the system is pretty obvious.

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imperialscum said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Only if this tunnel’s intention is to throw everything out that enters it. Luke is thrown out in the middle of the tunnel, so we don’t know where it leads and if the lightsaber couldn’t have gone all the way through it and not be thrown out.

Of course there is an intention to throw things out. First of all, there was a mechanism that sucked Luke sideways (I guess to prevent stuff falling into some machinery further down the big vertical shaft). Secondly, the hatch inside the small side tunnel opened when it detected Luke and threw him into another tunnel with a direct vertical opening toward the planet centre. The intention of the system is pretty obvious.

If the tunnels intention was to throw everything out, why didn’t it end at the bottom of Cloud City? Why was it necessary to have another tunnel in the wall that opens conditionally? We don’t even know what triggered the hatch to open, was it Luke’s weight or was it just bad timing (just like it was bad timing that the trash compactor starts with our heros inside)?

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Frank your Majesty said:

imperialscum said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Only if this tunnel’s intention is to throw everything out that enters it. Luke is thrown out in the middle of the tunnel, so we don’t know where it leads and if the lightsaber couldn’t have gone all the way through it and not be thrown out.

Of course there is an intention to throw things out. First of all, there was a mechanism that sucked Luke sideways (I guess to prevent stuff falling into some machinery further down the big vertical shaft). Secondly, the hatch inside the small side tunnel opened when it detected Luke and threw him into another tunnel with a direct vertical opening toward the planet centre. The intention of the system is pretty obvious.

If the tunnels intention was to throw everything out, why didn’t it end at the bottom of Cloud City? Why was it necessary to have another tunnel in the wall that opens conditionally? We don’t even know what triggered the hatch to open, was it Luke’s weight or was it just bad timing (just like it was bad timing that the trash compactor starts with our heros inside)?

I assume you arent an engineer. As I said, the big main shaft could have some function in making the whole city float or stabilised in orbit. You dont want any objects to hit whatever machinery is below, hence smaller side tunnels are there to suck any garbage and divert it.

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Frank your Majesty said:

If the tunnels intention was to throw everything out, why didn’t it end at the bottom of Cloud City? Why was it necessary to have another tunnel in the wall that opens conditionally? We don’t even know what triggered the hatch to open, was it Luke’s weight or was it just bad timing (just like it was bad timing that the trash compactor starts with our heros inside)?

A lot of discussion to skirt around the obvious: That Maz having Luke’s original lightsaber is silly.