What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS — Page 18

He fell a really long way. I don’t believe the air makes that much of a difference. Put it this way, if he had fallen over a flat surface and there was a strong wind blowing over that surface (parallel to the surface, perpendicular to his fall), it might nudge him some, but he’d still be pretty dead. The angle of the slide certainly helps, but I still think he would have been pretty badly hurt.

But it’s never actually bothered me that much. Just pointing out that the silly nitpicking goes both ways.

On another off-topic note, I always remembered Vader holding Luke up for a moment with the Force (part-way down the shaft) before letting him continue his fall into the chute. I don’t actually think it was in the movie, but my inaccurate memory insists it was there once upon a time.

TV’s Frink said:

What the hell are you talking about? I only quoted that because you were doing something similar to explain what Bespin was (which I didn’t argue with, by the way).

I quoted the official StarWars.com; you quoted a Wiki page.

TV’s Frink said:

Apparently you have a different copy of the film than anyone else in the world.

Good point! It certainly doesn’t make any sense to assume that any of those exhaust chutes would open up and the lightsaber would fall out.

You know what would be really, really cool?! What JJ should do next is have it such that Vader’s red lightsaber gets recovered by Ren! Since we never saw what actually happened to his red lightsaber, we certainly can’t just go on assuming that it got blown up when the second Death Star was destroyed.

I got it! Check this out! Oh, boy, JJ is going to totally rip off this idea! What happened was, when the Death Star blew up, Darth Vader’s lightsaber was shot out by the explosion, it tumbled through the atmosphere, and landed right by the Vader burn site. So when Ren showed up to retrieve Vader’s helmet, voila! He got two for the price of one! He got the helmet and Vader’s lightsaber!

Now if you’re saying, “Oh, Lizard! How could that be? If Ren had Vader’s lightsaber, he’d be using it, wouldn’t he?”

No! You see, that’s part of Ren’s backstory. We’ll maybe find out why Ren doesn’t use Vader’s lightsaber in episode IX.

Wow! The possibilities! We could also have it such that Ren finds Vader’s original bent wing TIE fighter! How cool would that be?! Oh! Oh! Oh! And then Finn will find Luke’s original X-Wing and Poe will find the Tantive IV! We can also have Rey find Leia’s white dress from ANH!

The possibilities! They should totally hire me as writer for the next films.

Smoking Lizard said:

TV’s Frink said:

What the hell are you talking about? I only quoted that because you were doing something similar to explain what Bespin was (which I didn’t argue with, by the way).

I quoted the official StarWars.com; you quoted a Wiki page.

Fine.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/anakin-lukes-lightsaber

Show me where it says the lightsaber fell out and melted.

TV’s Frink said:

Apparently you have a different copy of the film than anyone else in the world.

Good point! It certainly doesn’t make any sense to assume that any of those exhaust chutes would open up and the lightsaber would fall out.

I didn’t say it didn’t made sense, I said it’s one theory and nothing more. There’s nothing in the film to show it actually happened. Maybe it got stuck somewhere. Maybe it’s not heavy enough to activate the dumping cycle. Maybe it fell out and melted. There’s any number of possibilities that are perfectly reasonable. The point is that we don’t know what happened to it, and you are sitting there claiming we know exactly what happened based on zero evidence. The idea that someone recovered it is no more unlikely than it burning up on the planet below.

That_OT_Ruler said:

Lord Haseo said:

Sorry you felt that way and I hope you enjoy the film one day, but funny thing is that a decent amount of people were pissed when they left ESB due to having so many things left up in the air. Not saying TFA is on par but just wanted to note that.

Well thank you for being a good sport and not forcing me to change my viewpoints. 😃

It should’ve been explained at some point in the story.

For the sake of the plot should it have been told? No.

For the sake of the pacing should it have been told? Fuck no.

Most importantly the story of how Maz finds that lightsaber could be really interesting and I wouldn’t want to have the potential of that story to be squandered by a scene that would have been put in the movie just to stop people from complaining.

Smoking Lizard said:

You know what would be really, really cool?! What JJ should do next is have it such that Vader’s red lightsaber gets recovered by Ren! Since we never saw what actually happened to his red lightsaber, we certainly can’t just go on assuming that it got blown up when the second Death Star was destroyed.

I got it! Check this out! Oh, boy, JJ is going to totally rip off this idea! What happened was, when the Death Star blew up, Darth Vader’s lightsaber was shot out by the explosion, it tumbled through the atmosphere, and landed right by the Vader burn site. So when Ren showed up to retrieve Vader’s helmet, voila! He got two for the price of one! He got the helmet and Vader’s lightsaber!

Now if you’re saying, “Oh, Lizard! How could that be? If Ren had Vader’s lightsaber, he’d be using it, wouldn’t he?”

No! You see, that’s part of Ren’s backstory. We’ll maybe find out why Ren doesn’t use Vader’s lightsaber in episode IX.

Wow! The possibilities! We could also have it such that Ren finds Vader’s original bent wing TIE fighter! How cool would that be?! Oh! Oh! Oh! And then Finn will find Luke’s original X-Wing and Poe will find the Tantive IV! We can also have Rey find Leia’s white dress from ANH!

The possibilities! They should totally hire me as writer for the next films.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dakxwoVV7yM

I love people who think they can write good movies but haven’t written anything.

TV’s Frink said:

No, don’t bump this thread. It doesn’t deserve it.

Found it! And I stand by it. Why can’t all these complaints go in the other thread? Because you don’t want anyone questioning the complaints?

Aftermath kind of sort of maybe did set up Vader’s lightsaber being in the mix, for the record.

Man, I fuckin’ loved me some Glove of Darth Vader when I was eight.

Frank your Majesty said:

Bosk said:

How did Luke train Jedi without a light sabre?

How did Yoda train Luke without a light sabre?

+1

Luke had another light sabre in jedi, answered my own question, so he would have still had that one, so the loss of the sabre in ESB IS IRRELEVANT AS IS THE STORY IN TFA.

Frank your Majesty said:

Alone the implication that you need a light sabre to train Jedi shows how little you understand about the force.

Why is there so much emphasis on it in tfa then, it’s obviously important to the narrative. I understand how the force works but it’s a jedi’s weapon of choice, how else would they learn how to use it? luke practiced in anh. oh I forgot if your rey you’re instantly sabre and force ready. I wonder why leia never wielded one.

Even the shitty prequels showed Younglings practicing with sabres

Frank your Majesty said:

Bosk said:

Even the shitty prequels showed Younglings practicing with sabres

That’s one of the reasons why they are shitty. Therefore, they shouldn’t be taken into account, as they contradict the OT.

And tfa doesn’t? They’re trying to return a lost light sabre to luke, when he’s already replaced it in jedi. Hopefully he will say to rey I’ve already got one so you keep that one.