What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS — Page 17

SilverWook said:

Also, we don’t know when exactly when Luke’s old saber was found. Probably after he left. Lightsabers, (and the skills to make them) are a rare thing in the galaxy, so whoever found it on Bespin probably tried to sell it.

Let’s think this through, here. Luke drops his lightsaber on a gas giant planet, one very much like the planet Jupiter or Saturn. So it would fall and fall and fall until it hit the planet’s solid surface…

…which is as hot as the surface of the sun!

So how, exactly, did the lightsaber survive? Never mind, for now, how Maz got it.

I know, I know…it’s fantasy. Anything is allowed now in Star Wars. Anything at all. To explain anything, just say, “The Force,” “It’s a movie,” or, “It’s different than our universe.”

Bosk said:

TV’s Frink said:

Are you a ten-year-old, or am I giving you too much credit?

I thought it was amusing or can’t you take a joke or find your own posts?

You are the one who bitched about me doing something while providing zero context about WHY I did it. If you’re too lazy to provide the context, then you have even less credibility than I thought.

Smoking Lizard said:

SilverWook said:

Also, we don’t know when exactly when Luke’s old saber was found. Probably after he left. Lightsabers, (and the skills to make them) are a rare thing in the galaxy, so whoever found it on Bespin probably tried to sell it.

Let’s think this through, here. Luke drops his lightsaber on a gas giant planet, one very much like the planet Jupiter or Saturn. So it would fall and fall and fall until it hit the planet’s solid surface…

…which is as hot as the surface of the sun!

So how, exactly, did the lightsaber survive? Never mind, for now, how Maz got it.

I know, I know…it’s fantasy. Anything is allowed now in Star Wars. Anything at all. To explain anything, just say, “The Force,” “It’s a movie,” or, “It’s different than our universe.”

I honestly can’t remember the specifics here. Vader cuts his hand off…lightsaber falls down pit. Did we actually see it go out the bottom with him?

I’m not so blindly in love with TFA that I ignore relevant faults. The recovery of the lightsaber is an important issue.

imperialscum said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Can’t we all just get a foot long?

Please use metric system.

“Can’t we all just get a 30.48 centimetres long?” just doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.

DuracellEnergizer said:

imperialscum said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Can’t we all just get a foot long?

Please use metric system.

“Can’t we all just get a centimetres long?” just doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.

But it made me laugh, so there’s that.

SilverWook said:

Time to take a chill pill again people. It’s getting too warm in here again.

Sorry man, but you know how I feel about using “abortion” and “rape” in that way. I understand that some people just don’t have enough life experience to understand why they shouldn’t do it, but his doubling-down pissed me off even more.

I am genuinely curious how old this guy is. I’m guessing under 20 for sure.

Is Bespin a gas giant?
I thought it was just rich in a gas that was mined there.
It’s certainly got a breathable atmosphere (unless there is some sort of protective bubble around the city.

Oh hell, I forgot that Cloud City was a floating city (duh). So why couldn’t the lightsaber fall to the ground below and be recovered? How is that Star Wars magic?

Bingowings said:

Is Bespin a gas giant?
I thought it was just rich in a gas that was mined there.
It’s certainly got a breathable atmosphere (unless there is some sort of protective bubble around the city.

From StarWars.com:

An immense gas giant surrounded by a number of moons, the planet contains a band of habitable atmosphere among its endless clouds. In this stratum of life, enterprising prospectors have established floating mining complexes devoted to extracting valuable gasses from deep within the planet. The most well known of these ventures is the opulent Cloud City, formerly under the administration of Lando Calrissian. During the tail end of the Galactic Civil War, the Empire garrisoned Bespin and took over Cloud City, though the outpost and the planet enjoyed freedom after the defeat of the Emperor at the Battle of Endor.

Ok, so the question still stands. Did we see the lightsaber fall out the shaft with Luke?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker’s_second_lightsaber

Shortly after this, Luke carried the weapon with him to the Cloud City on Bespin in a bid to rescue his friends from Darth Vader. Engaging the Sith Lord in a lightsaber duel, Luke demonstrated his vastly increased skill with the weapon, impressing its former wielder. Ultimately, however, Luke’s lightsaber hand was sliced off by Vader and fell, along with the lightsaber it carried, into the depths of Cloud City.[17]

The lightsaber, still clutched by Luke Skywalker’s hand, had become lodged in one of Cloud City’s lower air shafts and eventually was recovered by a maintenance drone. The drone deposited the hand and the lightsaber in Smelting Core D. There, it was discovered by Groggin, the Smelting Core’s supervisor.

In addition (and more importantly), I just watched the scene and there’s nothing to suggest the lightsaber fell out with him. There were even multiple shafts at the bottom so it could have fallen into any of those.

Next topic.

TV’s Frink said:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker’s_second_lightsaber

Shortly after this, Luke carried the weapon with him to the Cloud City on Bespin in a bid to rescue his friends from Darth Vader. Engaging the Sith Lord in a lightsaber duel, Luke demonstrated his vastly increased skill with the weapon, impressing its former wielder. Ultimately, however, Luke’s lightsaber hand was sliced off by Vader and fell, along with the lightsaber it carried, into the depths of Cloud City.[17]

The lightsaber, still clutched by Luke Skywalker’s hand, had become lodged in one of Cloud City’s lower air shafts and eventually was recovered by a maintenance drone. The drone deposited the hand and the lightsaber in Smelting Core D. There, it was discovered by Groggin, the Smelting Core’s supervisor.

In addition (and more importantly), I just watched the scene and there’s nothing to suggest the lightsaber fell out with him. There were even multiple shafts at the bottom so it could have fallen into any of those.

Next topic.

Clever attempt at a selective cut & paste. Let’s scroll down some more and copy more of your “source” wiki article:

Engaging the Sith Lord in a lightsaber duel, Luke demonstrated his vastly increased skill with the weapon, impressing its former wielder. Ultimately, however, Luke’s lightsaber hand was sliced off by Vader and fell, along with the lightsaber it carried, into the depths of Cloud City.[17]
The Emperor’s trophy (3–9 ABY)Edit
The lightsaber, still clutched by Luke Skywalker’s hand, had become lodged in one of Cloud City’s lower air shafts and eventually was recovered by a maintenance drone. The drone deposited the hand and the lightsaber in Smelting Core D. There, it was discovered by Groggin, the Smelting Core’s supervisor.

Groggin had no use for the hand and decided to have it incinerated while he would keep the lightsaber, which he planned to melt down. However, the arrival of Darth Vader in the smelting facility prevented Groggin from taking such action. After a round of aggressive negotiations, Vader left the facility with the hand and the lightsaber in his possession. Though he had other plans for the hand and the lightsaber in mind, Vader was compelled by Palpatine to bring the two items to the Mount Tantiss storehouse on Wayland. There, the Emperor made Vader turn Skywalker’s hand and lightsaber over to him.

Six years later, the mad Jedi clone Joruus C’baoth ordered that a clone of Luke be produced from the limb, and that he be armed with Anakin’s old weapon. When Skywalker arrived, leading a New Republic strike team to destroy the cloning tanks of Wayland, he was forced to fight the clone, which was being controlled by C’baoth. It was ultimately killed by Mara Jade who then used Anakin’s old saber to kill C’baoth himself. Upon the team’s return to Coruscant, Luke presented her with the weapon as a gift.

So we go from canon to EU tripe. And we all know the EU was jettisoned (thankfully) by Disney.

Calling the Thrawn Trilogy tripe?

DuracellEnergizer said:

Calling the Thrawn Trilogy tripe?

Good God, yes. Thrawn Trilogy = As Bad as The Phantom Menace.

TavorX said:

Still, since old EU is scrapped, it’s not difficult to imagine that saber fell into a random air chute…

Right. Then the vent opened up and the lightsaber fell out like Luke did and then fell to the core of the planet and melted.

Smoking Lizard said:

Thrawn Trilogy = As Bad as The Phantom Menace.

You do realize I’m gonna have to swallow your soul now, right?

DuracellEnergizer said:

You do realize I’m gonna have to swallow your soul now, right?

That’s OK. I speak many blasphemies.

Smoking Lizard said:

TV’s Frink said:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker’s_second_lightsaber

Shortly after this, Luke carried the weapon with him to the Cloud City on Bespin in a bid to rescue his friends from Darth Vader. Engaging the Sith Lord in a lightsaber duel, Luke demonstrated his vastly increased skill with the weapon, impressing its former wielder. Ultimately, however, Luke’s lightsaber hand was sliced off by Vader and fell, along with the lightsaber it carried, into the depths of Cloud City.[17]

The lightsaber, still clutched by Luke Skywalker’s hand, had become lodged in one of Cloud City’s lower air shafts and eventually was recovered by a maintenance drone. The drone deposited the hand and the lightsaber in Smelting Core D. There, it was discovered by Groggin, the Smelting Core’s supervisor.

In addition (and more importantly), I just watched the scene and there’s nothing to suggest the lightsaber fell out with him. There were even multiple shafts at the bottom so it could have fallen into any of those.

Next topic.

Clever attempt at a selective cut & paste. Let’s scroll down some more and copy more of your “source” wiki article:

Engaging the Sith Lord in a lightsaber duel, Luke demonstrated his vastly increased skill with the weapon, impressing its former wielder. Ultimately, however, Luke’s lightsaber hand was sliced off by Vader and fell, along with the lightsaber it carried, into the depths of Cloud City.[17]
The Emperor’s trophy (3–9 ABY)Edit
The lightsaber, still clutched by Luke Skywalker’s hand, had become lodged in one of Cloud City’s lower air shafts and eventually was recovered by a maintenance drone. The drone deposited the hand and the lightsaber in Smelting Core D. There, it was discovered by Groggin, the Smelting Core’s supervisor.

Groggin had no use for the hand and decided to have it incinerated while he would keep the lightsaber, which he planned to melt down. However, the arrival of Darth Vader in the smelting facility prevented Groggin from taking such action. After a round of aggressive negotiations, Vader left the facility with the hand and the lightsaber in his possession. Though he had other plans for the hand and the lightsaber in mind, Vader was compelled by Palpatine to bring the two items to the Mount Tantiss storehouse on Wayland. There, the Emperor made Vader turn Skywalker’s hand and lightsaber over to him.

Six years later, the mad Jedi clone Joruus C’baoth ordered that a clone of Luke be produced from the limb, and that he be armed with Anakin’s old weapon. When Skywalker arrived, leading a New Republic strike team to destroy the cloning tanks of Wayland, he was forced to fight the clone, which was being controlled by C’baoth. It was ultimately killed by Mara Jade who then used Anakin’s old saber to kill C’baoth himself. Upon the team’s return to Coruscant, Luke presented her with the weapon as a gift.

So we go from canon to EU tripe. And we all know the EU was jettisoned (thankfully) by Disney.

What the hell are you talking about? I only quoted that because you were doing something similar to explain what Bespin was (which I didn’t argue with, by the way). If I can’t quote something like this, neither can you, and I’m allowed to assume the lightsaber fell onto the planet and was recovered.

And, as I stated, the more important thing is that you do not see where the lightsaber goes in the actual movie. There is not a single frame of film to support your theory (and that’s all it is!) that the lightsaber fell to the planet.

Honestly, I can’t take anything you say seriously when you argue these kinds of points. Unless you can find me anything in the film that supports your theory, you have nothing to offer but bullshit.

Smoking Lizard said:

TavorX said:

Still, since old EU is scrapped, it’s not difficult to imagine that saber fell into a random air chute…

Right. Then the vent opened up and the lightsaber fell out like Luke did and then fell to the core of the planet and melted.

Apparently you have a different copy of the film than anyone else in the world.

As long as we’re nitpicking in this thread, how did Luke even survive that fall? The Force?