Are you implying that literally ALL heroic deeds are documented? Puh…lease.
No. I never said that and I never implied it.
Well seeing as how you can’t even accept Luke not telling anyone I had to ask.
Smoking Lizard said: But Luke most certainly could have.
If you object to the word “certainly” then put it this way: It is far more likely that Luke would have told everyone his father’s story than not.
If by “everyone” you mean Leia, Chewie, Han, C3P0, R2, Lando etc. then yes that’s the most likely outcome. It’s more likely than him not telling anyone or him telling everyone. We’ll just have to agree to disagree
Virtually every living historian agrees that Hitler committed suicide, but the only evidence we have is the testimony of a handful of witnesses. And that’s with those witnesses lying and trying to tell the world that Hitler did not commit suicide. It wasn’t until after Germany surrendered that the Nazis came clean.
You literally just killed your own argument. Witnesses are unreliable. Even if Luke made it public knowledge how would you know he’s telling the truth if you live in that Universe?
But you believe that Hitler committed suicide, DO YOU NOT?! If you personally believe that Hitler committed suicide, think about it, your “witnesses are unreliable” claim immediately falls apart.
I don’t know what I believe all I know is that he’s gone. It’s too muddied to even give an opinion. All I know is that if there’s no reliable witness, a mass sighting or at least photographs/video I’m going to look at any claim with incredulity
Maybe I’m just too cynical but I can understand why Kylo could dismiss such a baseless claim.
Baseless? Think about what you’re saying. Clearly Ren was a child once, right? Presumably a normal child. Logically, his mother Leia, his uncle Luke, his father Han, his droid C3PO, and perhaps even his father’s best friend Lando would have all told young Ren about Anakin’s redemption. It’s just common sense. So all his family members would tell him this and then you conclude that he would dismiss them as “baseless”?
Me and Darth Bane went to Las Vegas to buy some Skooma from Bender. That claim had as much merit as Luke/Leia/Han telling Ben that Vader redeemed himself. It’s a baseless claim because there is nothing that substantiate it. Whether it actually happened or not unless there is demonstrable evidence to prove/disprove a claim it’s baseless. End of story
“Search your feelings, Luke, you know it to be true.”
So if Ren had any doubts that Luke was telling him the truth about Anakin, all Ren had to do was search his own feelings through the Force and then he’d know that what Luke was telling him was the truth.
If that conversation took place before he turned to the Dark Side you have a huge point. But if this conversation took place after he starting descending into the depths of lunacy and starting flirting with the Dark Side I don’t think he’d be able to tell right from wrong. We don’t know how much Snoke has brainwashed him.