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Post #893617

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Smoking Lizard
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS
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Date created
5-Jan-2016, 8:16 PM

Lord Haseo said:

Are you implying that literally ALL heroic deeds are documented? Puh…lease.

No. I never said that and I never implied it. But Luke most certainly would have. If you object to the word “certainly” then put it this way: It is far more likely that Luke would have told everyone his father’s story than not.

Virtually every living historian agrees that Hitler committed suicide, but the only evidence we have is the testimony of a handful of witnesses. And that’s with those witnesses lying and trying to tell the world that Hitler did not commit suicide. It wasn’t until after Germany surrendered that the Nazis came clean.

You literally just killed your own argument. Witnesses are unreliable. Even if Luke made it public knowledge how would you know he’s telling the truth if you live in that Universe?

No I did not. I proved it. You attempted this argument: “Witnesses are unreliable.”

But you believe that Hitler committed suicide, DO YOU NOT?! If you personally believe that Hitler committed suicide, think about it, your “witnesses are unreliable” claim immediately falls apart.

Instead of trying to disprove the analogy, instead, if you would, open your mind and ask yourself, “OK, why is his analogy good? Why does it make sense?” If you do that earnestly, sincerely, with a fully open mind the analogy will make sense to you. But if you dig in your heels and refuse to see it, well, of course you never will.

Maybe I’m just too cynical but I can understand why Kylo could dismiss such a baseless claim.

Baseless? Think about what you’re saying. Clearly Ren was a child once, right? Presumably a normal child. Logically, his mother Leia, his uncle Luke, his father Han, his droid C3PO, and perhaps even his father’s best friend Lando would have all told young Ren about Anakin’s redemption. It’s just common sense. So all his family members would tell him this and then you conclude that he would dismiss them as “baseless”?

“Search your feelings, Luke, you know it to be true.”

So if Ren had any doubts that Luke was telling him the truth about Anakin, all Ren had to do was search his own feelings through the Force and then he’d know that what Luke was telling him was the truth.

Anyway, it’s been a very engaging, lively discussion. Thanks!