This is all your interpretation but not even the scripts says that R2 piloted it.
Agree. It’s not in the scripts, but it is in the radio drama. So I suppose it depends on whether we’re confining the discussion to the films or to the original canon.
Even so, the explanation is plausible. It’s perfectly plausible that R2 piloted the pod. So R2 landing so close to Obi Wan is not a “eye roll” moment like the crashed TIE fighter is.
Why? Sure, there were probably other sandcrawlers, but the Jawas logically broke up the territory into different patrol zones. “You guys search west of the dragon bones, we’ll search the east side. We’ll meet up at lunchtime.” Again, in no way does this even stretch the imagination. It’s a perfectly reasonable explanation.
…something like that isn’t even something common sense can account for.
Good God…how not? Now I think you’re just being coy. It’s absolutely 100% plausible that the Jawas in a mechanized transport could easily catch both R2 and C3PO, especially considering C3PO walks at 2 miles per hour and was walking on a wide open expanse of desert. I mean, come on.
I was actually talking about
[Smoking Lizard said:] there were probably other sandcrawlers, but the Jawas logically broke up the territory into different patrol zones
Sure, it’s a nitpick. That’s what the debate is about.
It is? I thought it was a debate over how the sort of absurd conveniences in TFA are also in ANH?
Yeah but plot conveniences don’t bother me that much because every film has them. Ironically one of my favorite films has them too.
Which of course implies that he made the fact that Darth Vader turned good again public knowledge.
Again, come on. For real? Are you really suggesting that Luke would have any reason at all to not make this public? Such a grand story, such grand evidence of how good triumphed over evil, such a grand story of how his own father was redeemed. And Luke would keep that private? Puh…lease.
It would serve no purpose to anyone but to Leia or his chosen apprentices as a shining example of how anyone can be redeemed. Not only that but it’s literally unprovable
If anything he would tell Leia and rest of the crew but no one else with the exception of his future students…
Again, why would he keep that private?! If someone does something heroic, why keep that private?! Do we keep the stories of our Medal of Honor war heroes private? Good God, no. No. We publicize them and celebrate and honor their heroism. This is just getting silly and argumentative.
Are you implying that literally ALL heroic deeds are documented? Puh…lease.
I think the photos and videos of Berlin being bombed to oblivion should be sufficient to sway anyone that the Nazis lost. Darth Vader betraying Palpatine is something that happened in an enclosed space and as only witnessed by 3 people. Terrible analogy.
It’s an absolute perfect analogy, if you just think about it. We accept history even though we weren’t there to witness it.
It’s a bad analogy because there is demonstrable evidence that the Nazis lost. However even in the SW universe there is not ONE shred of photographic or video evidence that Darth Vader betrayed Palpatine.
Virtually every living historian agrees that Hitler committed suicide, but the only evidence we have is the testimony of a handful of witnesses. And that’s with those witnesses lying and trying to tell the world that Hitler did not commit suicide. It wasn’t until after Germany surrendered that the Nazis came clean.
You literally just killed your own argument. Witnesses are unreliable. Even if Luke made it public knowledge how would you know he’s telling the truth if you live in that Universe?
Maybe I’m just too cynical but I can understand why Kylo could dismiss such a baseless claim. Now if Anakin comes in Force Spirit and tells Kylo he turned back to the light then you have a point.