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Post #893565

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Smoking Lizard
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS
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5-Jan-2016, 5:29 PM

Lord Haseo said:

This is all your interpretation but not even the scripts says that R2 piloted it.

Agree. It’s not in the scripts, but it is in the radio drama. So I suppose it depends on whether we’re confining the discussion to the films or to the original canon.

Even so, the explanation is plausible. It’s perfectly plausible that R2 piloted the pod. So R2 landing so close to Obi Wan is not a “eye roll” moment like the crashed TIE fighter is.

Why? Sure, there were probably other sandcrawlers, but the Jawas logically broke up the territory into different patrol zones. “You guys search west of the dragon bones, we’ll search the east side. We’ll meet up at lunchtime.” Again, in no way does this even stretch the imagination. It’s a perfectly reasonable explanation.

…something like that isn’t even something common sense can account for.

Good God…how not? Now I think you’re just being coy. It’s absolutely 100% plausible that the Jawas in a mechanized transport could easily catch both R2 and C3PO, especially considering C3PO walks at 2 miles per hour and was walking on a wide open expanse of desert. I mean, come on.

Sure, it’s a nitpick. That’s what the debate is about.

It is? I thought it was a debate over how the sort of absurd conveniences in TFA are also in ANH?

I don’t deny that. I couldn’t see why he would omit that.

Right. So clearly my critiques on these points do not indicate that I did not comprehend the film, as you claimed.

Which of course implies that he made the fact that Darth Vader turned good again public knowledge.

Again, come on. For real? Are you really suggesting that Luke would have any reason at all to not make this public? Such a grand story, such grand evidence of how good triumphed over evil, such a grand story of how his own father was redeemed. And Luke would keep that private? Puh…lease.

If anything he would tell Leia and rest of the crew but no one else with the exception of his future students…

Again, why would he keep that private?! If someone does something heroic, why keep that private?! Do we keep the stories of our Medal of Honor war heroes private? Good God, no. No. We publicize them and celebrate and honor their heroism. This is just getting silly and argumentative.

I think the photos and videos of Berlin being bombed to oblivion should be sufficient to sway anyone that the Nazis lost. Darth Vader betraying Palpatine is something that happened in an enclosed space and as only witnessed by 3 people. Terrible analogy.

It’s an absolute perfect analogy, if you just think about it. We accept history even though we weren’t there to witness it. You want a more refined analogy? Fine. You accept that Hitler committed suicide, yes? Virtually every living historian agrees that Hitler committed suicide, but the only evidence we have is the testimony of a handful of witnesses. And that’s with those witnesses lying and trying to tell the world that Hitler did not commit suicide. It wasn’t until after Germany surrendered that the Nazis came clean.

When Darth Vader turned to the light 2/3 of the people there died. If Luke didn’t tell anyone it would die with him.

Again, there is absolutely no logical reason for Luke to have kept that a secret; on the contrary, he would have told the entire galaxy the story of the triumph of good over evil.