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Post #893526

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Lord Haseo
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS
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5-Jan-2016, 4:58 PM

Smoking Lizard said:

Lord Haseo said:

That would be cool if it didn’t look like the escape pod was in freefall.

That’s the basic way space flight works. You propel yourself forward and then allow inertia to take you in the general direction you want to go. Then, when you approach your target, THEN you engage your navigation to fine tune your landing. It’s like allowing your car to coast to the stop sign instead of pressing the gas all the way to the sign and then hitting the brakes at the last second to stop. Conserves fuel. That’s obvious what the film is portraying there.

This is all your interpretation but not even the scripts says that R2 piloted it. Also if he piloted the escape pod why not go straight to Obi-Wan?

Why? Sure, there were probably other sandcrawlers, but the Jawas logically broke up the territory into different patrol zones. “You guys search west of the dragon bones, we’ll search the east side. We’ll meet up at lunchtime.” Again, in no way does this even stretch the imagination. It’s a perfectly reasonable explanation.

I only wish this was established anywhere. I mean my mind can go there but for the sake of the argument something like that isn’t even something common sense can account for.

R2D2 and C3P0 crash on Tatooine - R2 and C3P0 split up - Both are captured by the same Jawas - C3P0 and red Astromech are sold to Owen and Beru - Red Astromech blows up because convenience and R2 is then sold in it’s place…

And the red R2 unit getting picked first and how the two droids, as explained above, wound up on the same Sandcrawler are NOT consequential, because the movie would have wound up the same way either way.

Sure, it’s a nitpick. That’s what the debate is about.

Second, can you explain to me how these two observations of mine somehow suggest that I did not comprehend TFA? Because I see it the other way around – that because I comprehended TFA, I was able to make these observations.

So in 30 years Luke trained ZERO new Jedis? Ren somehow killed them ALL?!

It was blatantly said that Luke had an academy and everything went to shit. Then there’s a Force Flashback which shows the aftermath of the destruction.

Right. That’s exactly what I said in my observation. We’re supposed to believe that Ren killed ALL of the new Jedi that Luke trained over a 30 year period?! ALL of them?!

So I guess you’ve never heard of the Knights of Ren
Ren couldn’t even defeat Rey, an untrained Jedi, but he killed ALL of Luke’s Jedi? I mean, Luke had 30 years!

How many high school students does a high school teacher teach over 30 years? Granted, it probably it takes longer to train a new jedi than teach a high school kid, but still. Not to mention that once Luke trained his first batch of students, some of them would begin taking on students of their own. Come on. Overly convenient.

A lot but we don’t know when Luke went into hiding so unless he went into hiding the week before TFA takes place I don’t see a problem. The number of Jedi that could have been feasibly trained within two decades is less than considerably less than 200.

So Kylo Ren is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader’s grandson? Kylo Ren, in private, “prays” to his grandfather to “show him the way” to resist the pull of the light side of the Force. Um, hello? Anakin Skywalker is probably the WORST person to ask for advice on how to resist the light side?

If Kylo Ren still idolizes Vader after what he did he either isn’t privy to the fact that Vader turned back to the light…

Luke most certainly would have told him!

I don’t deny that. I couldn’t see why he would omit that.

or he simply refuses to believe that such a thing would happen…

Why wouldn’t he? The Empire fell, yes? The Emperor is dead, yes? Surely there has to be an explanation.

Luke and The Rebellion

In fact, it would probably be a basic lesson in all the elementary schools in the galaxy. Every kid would learn the history of how the Empire was defeated,

Which of course implies that he made the fact that Darth Vader turned good again public knowledge. If anything he would tell Leia and rest of the crew but no one else with the exception of his future students…

just like how you and I learned how the Allies defeated the Nazis. Were we there to witness it? No. Do we believe it happened? Yes.

I think the photos and videos of Berlin being bombed to oblivion should be sufficient to sway anyone that the Nazis lost. Darth Vader betraying Palpatine is something that happened in an enclosed space and as only witnessed by 3 people. Terrible analogy.

When Darth Vader turned to the light 2/3 of the people there died. If Luke didn’t tell anyone it would die with him.

It’s ridiculous.

Depends on the reason to be honest