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Smoking Lizard
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS
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5-Jan-2016, 3:07 PM

Lord Haseo said:

That would be cool if it didn’t look like the escape pod was in freefall.

That’s the basic way space flight works. You propel yourself forward and then allow inertia to take you in the general direction you want to go. Then, when you approach your target, THEN you engage your navigation to fine tune your landing. It’s like allowing your car to coast to the stop sign instead of pressing the gas all the way to the sign and then hitting the brakes at the last second to stop. Conserves fuel. That’s obvious what the film is portraying there.

Still kind of a stretch that in all that time there were no other sandcrawler’s around.

Why? Sure, there were probably other sandcrawlers, but the Jawas logically broke up the territory into different patrol zones. “You guys search west of the dragon bones, we’ll search the east side. We’ll meet up at lunchtime.” Again, in no way does this even stretch the imagination. It’s a perfectly reasonable explanation.

R2D2 and C3P0 crash on Tatooine - R2 and C3P0 split up - Both are captured by the same Jawas - C3P0 and red Astromech are sold to Owen and Beru - Red Astromech blows up because convenience and R2 is then sold in it’s place…

If R2 and C3PO just randomly crashed so close to Obi Wan, yes, I would agree with you – that would be overly convenient. That would be a consequential convenience. But they did not randomly crash. R2 piloted the escape pod.

And the red R2 unit getting picked first and how the two droids, as explained above, wound up on the same Sandcrawler are NOT consequential, because the movie would have wound up the same way either way.

Second, can you explain to me how these two observations of mine somehow suggest that I did not comprehend TFA? Because I see it the other way around – that because I comprehended TFA, I was able to make these observations.

So in 30 years Luke trained ZERO new Jedis? Ren somehow killed them ALL?!

It was blatantly said that Luke had an academy and everything went to shit. Then there’s a Force Flashback which shows the aftermath of the destruction.

Right. That’s exactly what I said in my observation. We’re supposed to believe that Ren killed ALL of the new Jedi that Luke trained over a 30 year period?! ALL of them?! Ren couldn’t even defeat Rey, an untrained Jedi, but he killed ALL of Luke’s Jedi? I mean, Luke had 30 years! How many high school students does a high school teacher teach over 30 years? Granted, it probably it takes longer to train a new jedi than teach a high school kid, but still. Not to mention that once Luke trained his first batch of students, some of them would begin taking on students of their own. Come on. Overly convenient.

So Kylo Ren is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader’s grandson? Kylo Ren, in private, “prays” to his grandfather to “show him the way” to resist the pull of the light side of the Force. Um, hello? Anakin Skywalker is probably the WORST person to ask for advice on how to resist the light side?

If Kylo Ren still idolizes Vader after what he did he either isn’t privy to the fact that Vader turned back to the light…

Luke most certainly would have told him!

Ren: “Uncle Luke, thanks for agreeing to train me as a Jedi. I’m excited. By the way, how did you defeat the Emperor?”

Luke: “Oh, that. Your grandfather, my father, Anakin, who was Darth Vader, saw the Emperor trying to kill me and stopped him. He grabbed him and threw him down a shaft.”

or he simply refuses to believe that such a thing would happen…

Why wouldn’t he? The Empire fell, yes? The Emperor is dead, yes? Surely there has to be an explanation. In fact, it would probably be a basic lesson in all the elementary schools in the galaxy. Every kid would learn the history of how the Empire was defeated, just like how you and I learned how the Allies defeated the Nazis. Were we there to witness it? No. Do we believe it happened? Yes.

Now…is it possible Snoke convinced Ren that Vader never turned back to the light? Sure. Is it plausible? It’s ridiculous.

How hadn’t this thought occured to you?

Of course that thought has occurred to me, but that thought is illogical for the reasons I listed above, so my mind rejects it.