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Post #893453

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Smoking Lizard
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS
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5-Jan-2016, 2:02 PM

Lord Haseo said:

  1. R2 and C3P0 happen to land somewhere conveniently on the side of the planet where Luke is

R2 piloted the escape pod to the location Leia told him to go. The escape pod was navigable, unlike the TIE fighter Poe and Finn were in in TFA

That was never established in the film. Nice rationalization though.

I don’t want to sound argumentative, but basic inference is permitted in any movie. It’s perfectly logical that the escape pod should be able to be steered. Even the life boats on the Titanic could be steered. Life rafts can be steered. Considering an escape pod on a space ship would take its passengers into deep space, it only makes sense that someone should be able to steer it.

I know, I know – but R2 didn’t say out loud, “I’m piloting the escape pod!”, so in your mind the idea of a steerable escape pod is not allowed.

  1. Then later when they’re separated they somehow conveniently meet up on the sandcrawler so they can be sold to Owen and Beru.

They didn’t conveniently “meet up.” The Jawas are scavengers. It’s what they do. All day long. Considering how slow C3PO walks and the rocky terrain, the two droids were not far apart. Not a stretch at all, considering how close the droids were to each other and considering the fact that C3PO actually called the Sandcrawler to him. Moreover this is an inconsequential convenience, like the one below. More storytelling than plot. The droids didn’t have to separate. That was just story telling.

Those aren’t the only Jawa’s on the planet that scavenge. The fact that parallel opposite directions and still end up on the SAME sandcrawler is convnient. There’s no way around that.

No way around it? I already explained it. Considering the fact the C3PO literally walks at a pace of about 2 miles per hour, he and R2 were likely at most 4 or 5 miles apart. So the Jawas are out, looking for scrap, and C3PO sees them in the distance and calls out to them. It’s the Jawas’ lucky day. After they pick up C3PO, they continue their route and, as luck would have it, they find R2, who wasn’t that far away. Damn, dude, that’s not that hard to imagine.

Also I wouldn’t exactly call them inconsequential because those are things that push the plot forward.

No, they don’t. These two story elements do not push the plot forward at all. They are not necessary to push the plot along. Think about it: In the movie, the droids part ways, then get captured separately by the same Jawas. The other way Lucas could have done this is just not have the droids part ways and then they get caught together. The end result is the same – they’re in the same Sandcrawler. So yes, the “convenience” is inconsequential.

Also seeing as how you said

[Smoking Lizard said:]
So in 30 years Luke trained ZERO new Jedis? Ren somehow killed them ALL?!

and

[Smoking Lizard said:]
So Kylo Ren is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader’s grandson? Kylo Ren, in private, “prays” to his grandfather to “show him the way” to resist the pull of the light side of the Force. Um, hello? Anakin Skywalker is probably the WORST person to ask for advice on how to resist the light side?

I’d be weary of calling anyone out on comprehending the film.

First, you did mean “wary,” right?

Second, can you explain to me how these two observations of mine somehow suggest that I did not comprehend TFA? Because I see it the other way around – that because I comprehended TFA, I was able to make these observations.

But I could be wrong. Maybe you have something else in mind? Maybe there was something I missed? Please explain. I’m interested in reading you thoughts on this, as it’s an interesting element of TFA that would probably be fun to discuss.

Guys, there is a difference between TFA and ANH, as far as the quality of the stories and plot are concerned.

We all know STAR WARS is the superior film on paper, but it still not prefect and suffers from some of the same issues TFA has.

Not by a long shot. Are there moments in ANH where you have to give Lucas a pass? Sure. Of course. But those are nickels and dimes compared to the absurdities of TFA.