I’m reposting this here because it will be fun watching some of you try to explain it away or insist it’s not the same thing.
It isn’t the existence of those that bothers me, it’s the number and density of them at the beginning of TFA that I disliked. Had they been more spread out, and/or with a couple of them feeling less coincidental, it would have been far better.
STAR WARS had a lot of plot conveniences
- R2 and C3P0 happen to land somewhere conveniently on the side of the planet where Luke is
R2 piloted the escape pod to the location Leia told him to go. The escape pod was navigable, unlike the TIE fighter Poe and Finn were in in TFA
That was never established in the film. Nice rationalization though.
- Then later when they’re separated they somehow conveniently meet up on the sandcrawler so they can be sold to Owen and Beru.
They didn’t conveniently “meet up.” The Jawas are scavengers. It’s what they do. All day long. Considering how slow C3PO walks and the rocky terrain, the two droids were not far apart. Not a stretch at all, considering how close the droids were to each other and considering the fact that C3PO actually called the Sandcrawler to him. Moreover this is an inconsequential convenience, like the one below. More storytelling than plot. The droids didn’t have to separate. That was just story telling.
Those aren’t the only Jawa’s on the planet that scavenge. The fact that parallel opposite directions and still end up on the SAME sandcrawler is convnient. There’s no way around that.
- Then the other Astromech poops out conveniently so that R2 can be purchased
An inconsequential convenience, like the one above. More part of the story than the plot. The “convenience” could be quickly undone by the director or script writer simply telling the actor to buy R2 and not the red droid first and you wind up with the same result.
No, unlike the other one this one can be easily undone which can’t be said about the other “inconsequential convenience”. Also I wouldn’t exactly call them inconsequential because those are things that push the plot forward.
- Then Luke somehow conveniently finds part of Leia’s message while cleaning R2
Did this person actually watch ANH? R2 deliberately showed Luke an innocuous piece of the message to trick Luke into removing the restraining bolt from R2 so R2 could escape uncle Owen’s farm and continue his mission.
You got me on this but droids shouldn’t even be capable of shit like that
Also seeing as how you said
[Smoking Lizard said:]
So in 30 years Luke trained ZERO new Jedis? Ren somehow killed them ALL?!
and
[Smoking Lizard said:]
So Kylo Ren is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader’s grandson? Kylo Ren, in private, “prays” to his grandfather to “show him the way” to resist the pull of the light side of the Force. Um, hello? Anakin Skywalker is probably the WORST person to ask for advice on how to resist the light side?
I’d be weary of calling anyone out on comprehending the film.
Guys, there is a difference between TFA and ANH, as far as the quality of the stories and plot are concerned.
We all know STAR WARS is the superior film on paper, but it still not prefect and suffers from some of the same issues TFA has.