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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1 — Page 74

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Harmy said:

When I want to watch a BD movie with subtitles, I usually play it though my PC and add srt subs, because most BDs have really awful subtitles, not in terms of quality but in terms of size and placement - they are usually way too big and with 2.35:1 movies the first line is usually in the picture, while the second line is in the black bar, which IMO is the worst placement of subs you can have, because it totally breaks the cinematic feel - either put them in the picture, which is the way subs would appear in the cinema and it also makes them easier to read while also watching the movie (provided they have a black boarder), or keep them in the black bar, so they don’t intrude in the image.

This +1000

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Some players have a “subtitle shift” feature that gets subtitles back into a reasonable position, but I’ve always felt a “subtitle zoom” feature would be much handier–zoom in (or out) only on the subtitle overlay, but not on the movie itself. The correct size of subtitles depends on screen size and seating distance, so it goes without saying that disc authors will target the median, making people outside the median suffer. Whenever I get the chance, I try to let player manufacturers know subtitle zoom would be a good feature to add. Whether it’ll ever be implemented, who knows. On the software side, I suppose we could try to convince VLC and MPC-HC rather than your more conservative hardware manufacturers.

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I believe that’s the case with the Xbox 360. If I use the built in zoom feature to watch the GOUT on my widescreen TV, it actually shifts the subtitles up to a readable level. I don’t know how many players have a zoom feature like this, however.

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Wazzles said:

I believe that’s the case with the Xbox 360. If I use the built in zoom feature to watch the GOUT on my widescreen TV, it actually shifts the subtitles up to a readable level. I don’t know how many players have a zoom feature like this, however.

Not quite what I wanted. I meant not zooming the video at all, and zooming just the subtitles in or out. I also have a player that can zoom video, so that’s not too uncommon.

Project Threepio (Star Wars OOT subtitles)

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Hey, I really appreciate all the work everybody on this forum is doing for the preservation of star wars. Would anybody be able to send me an invite to myspleen? There are some very interesting fan preservation projects that only seem to be available there. Thanks!

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greetings to all here at OT.com. 1st off i want to take this opportunity to thank you all and of course harmy and everyone who has ever had anything to due with preserving these special films for us all!

with that said, i have just discovered you guys, so after all the prep work i was able to obtain harmys ds editions of sw and esb in NTSC DVD5. i prefer the NTSC DVD5 files because they work best with my limited hardware but ill take whatever i can get for rotj at this point.

and speaking of rotj ive run into a snag… after doing all the steps in jdownloader i got to the download point and hit the play button however, it comes back with an error stating “plugin error (out of date)”. so i first did a search for a fix to see if others had this same problem, but i couldnt really find a fix? so can anyone here PLEASE help with any tips.

any help is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
joey

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Upgrading to jdownloader2 did the trick for me.

Ceci n’est pas une signature.

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Yup. Jdownloader 1 isn’t supported anymore so it’s out of date.

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Harmy said:

Here’s a tiny delayed Christmas present 😃

Awesome. Was wondering if you would go for the more saturated Lucasfilm (as you have been for recent releases).

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Yeah - mainly, the logos in the workprint are the v1.0 GOUT ones, whereas these new ones are actually restored from a 4K scan of a 35mm print of ROTJ.

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Harmy said:

Here’s a tiny delayed Christmas present 😃

WOW WOW WOW thanks so much!!! that was an incredibly fast reply and that that instantly did the trick for me got me around the 1st hurdle!..

but now im running into a 2nd hurdle. i guess the rotj 2.0 WP is an mkv file and wont burn onto a standard dvd (side note: now this may be opening a whole other can of worms but based on the size why cant it burn onto a regular dvd?).

but i read the “read me” file and it says that it should work in my usb drive. however even though my usb drive has 14 gigs free space it wont fit for some reason? has anyone else seen this? and can someone please point me in the right direction.

Regards, joey

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joeyniji said:

but now im running into a 2nd hurdle. i guess the rotj 2.0 WP is an mkv file and wont burn onto a standard dvd (side note: now this may be opening a whole other can of worms but based on the size why cant it burn onto a regular dvd?).

It’s not a format your DVD player can recognize.

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joeyniji said:

but now im running into a 2nd hurdle. i guess the rotj 2.0 WP is an mkv file and wont burn onto a standard dvd (side note: now this may be opening a whole other can of worms but based on the size why cant it burn onto a regular dvd?).

but i read the “read me” file and it says that it should work in my usb drive. however even though my usb drive has 14 gigs free space it wont fit for some reason? has anyone else seen this? and can someone please point me in the right direction.

Regards, joey

Not the right format for DVD.

FAT32 formatted drives (which your drive probably is) do not allow for files above 4 gigs.

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TV’s Frink said:

It’s not a format your DVD player can recognize.

oh i see …thanks tvs frink

towne32 said:
FAT32 formatted drives (which your drive probably is) do not allow for files above 4 gigs.

thanks towne32. so then is it possible to just buy a different type of thumbdrive that is formatted for these type files? or perhaps “there is another”… way?

i cant thank you all enough for all the help so far! i dont think ive ever been so openly welcomed into a community when i was a “newbie”. most times i couldnt help but feel an air of superiority and pulling rank. i have felt NONE of that here! so thanks again im just really appreciative!

regards,
joey

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Here’s something interesting:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156826/picture:0
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156826/picture:1

The new logos are definitely 100% accurate to ROTJ, since they come from a 1983 35mm print and yet, the v1.0 logos, taken from GOUT, have very different spacing and fonts.

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If the drive is big enough, you can just reformat it with your PC. This is all assuming you have a blu-ray drive or smart tv that will read the file format and drive format. There are also apparently instructions around here for splitting the mkv into smaller files.

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Harmy said:

Here’s something interesting:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156826/picture:0
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156826/picture:1

The new logos are definitely 100% accurate to ROTJ, since they come from a 1983 35mm print and yet, the v1.0 logos, taken from GOUT, have very different spacing and fonts.

It is crazy that they are so different, I wonder if the home video intros of the other movies differ from theatrical, as well…

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The 35mm Lucasfilm logo looks like the one on Caravan of Courage.

Do the older home video versions of Return of the Jedi have the theatrical logo?

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Hi Harmy,

First off, I just want to say a massive thank you! Having recently discovered the Despecialized Editions, I cant tell you how please I am! I watched this documentary on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHfLX_TMduY) and was blown away. I’m about to settle down and watch your extended in-progress doc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXifjbxZDAM&feature=iv&src_vid=dHfLX_TMduY&annotation_id=annotation_3017525017)!!

Your hard work is very much appreciated (and seriously impressive!). Also, a massive thank you to anyone else who has contributed and provided source material. Wow 😃

I just had a few questions regarding the ROTJ workprint version… will it contain various audio tracks, specifically a DTS-HD track, like the other two editions? Also MKV chapters?

Really looking forward to it… gonna grab a day after it’s released and watch all 3 back-to-back 😃 Just got to pack the wife and kids off first!

Cheers

liquid

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Harmy said:

Here’s something interesting:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156826/picture:0
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/156826/picture:1

The new logos are definitely 100% accurate to ROTJ, since they come from a 1983 35mm print and yet, the v1.0 logos, taken from GOUT, have very different spacing and fonts.

Whoah. Well there was always the theory that the GOUT 77 crawl was a reconstruction rather than the real thing… I wonder if it could apply to other things as well – or if someone was lazy and just re-used the same Lucasfilm logo (and ALTA) scan three times, and it is “theatrical”, just for a different film.

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Hm, yeah, that someone could have well been me - I’m gonna need to check 😄