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Post #891739

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cyclista
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What didn't you like about TFA? SPOILERS
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31-Dec-2015, 9:22 AM

Bingowings said:

5.Having Ren take his mask off before that scene with Han. The reveal that the mask is essentially cosplay because he wants to copy his poweful grandfather who needed to wear a mask is a character note that should go with that scene.

Oh, holy crap. I hadn’t even begun to envision edits that would work with the existing material, but this one nails an issue completely. It might be unpleasant to the audience who will probably always be expecting a genuine horror underneath the mask at such an apex moment, but structurally it makes so much more sense, especially explaining in that same moment why Han still regards him as his son.

Wow. Good job.

Smoking Lizard said:

  • Kylo Ren and the First Order round up the innocent villagers and are setting the village on fire. When Kylo comes to question Poe, Poe deems it appropriate to crack jokes at Ren. No, Poe, don’t, you know, maybe BEG for mercy for the villagers and insist that they’re innocent. Nah. Crack jokes instead.

Am I the only one who remembers someone mentioning Poe being the son of someone important? I could have sworn it was implied he was Han’s son, making this a snarky remark in defiance of his little brother’s attempt at being a badass. Someone correct me on this, I haven’t seen it more than once.

  • Oh, yeah! What about Poe Dameron? Why did he just leave Jakku without finding BB-8 first? It was a critical mission AND HE JUST LEFT?! When he got back to the Resistance planet did Leia come up and say, “Well?” and he said, “Well, what?” and she said, “Did you get the message I sent you to retrieve?” and he said, “Oh, snap!”?!

lol yeah busted

  • So in 30 years Luke trained ZERO new Jedis? Ren somehow killed them ALL?!

Yeah seems implausible to me too 😕

Ideally we find there’s a bit more nuance than that in future.

Alderaan said:

That stromtrooper sabre scene was cringeworthy. Just brutal.

I actually thought it was cool, tech should have evolved somewhat. And clearly specialized troopers are a fixture of this new empire group. It was startling that a lightsaber wasn’t just magically lethal, I think deriding it just because it was obviously cool is kind of paranoid. Not everything that is cool is inauthentic 9_9

Smoking Lizard said:

And the scene is even made sillier when you think of this: Why would a stormtrooper even be armed with a melee weapon that can CONVENIENTLY deflect lightsaber blades? Before you say, “So they can fight the Jedi!”, the Jedi are extinct (except for Luke). So they pose no threat. Why would your foot soldiers be armed with such an impractical weapon?

This is just yet another case of, “Let’s throw a lot of really ‘cool’ sh!t on the screen!” without any regard for whether or not the “cool” sh!t makes any sense.

This is just BS. Military units carry specialists often. A sniper might be attached to a combat group even not knowing for certain long distance targets will be present. This isn’t an excuse either; again, it is clear that this new empire has invested more in its troopers, which is good, because previously they were fodder junk, and we’ve mocked them for years as a result.

Smoking Lizard said:

TV’s Frink said:

Let me know when you can link to a video explaining how quicksand works on Jakku.

This is where we get into the ugly realm of what is possible vs. what is plausible. Unfortunately, it seems that some folks here aren’t able or aren’t willing to discern the difference.

You either read nothing of what we even at this crude time know of geology on other planets or you are just leaving it out of the discussion. Do we even know that the desert on Jakku is silica? How? Do all deserts behave the same regardless of the mineral content? And in any case, the fact that these sands are treacherous was mentioned earlier in the film. Come on, man, your tone assumes an air of critical remove but most of us are smart enough to see that you’re just here to stir things up, because your arguments are transparently stupid. You are a very poor critic.

By the way, I just want to make it understood that most of Smoking Lizard’s complaints were disgruntled nonsense. It isn’t even a matter of opinion, most of those comments just demonstrated a lack of attention span watching the events of the story. Not to mention a bias that was astronomical. And the fact that Smoking Lizard wrote such a stupidly long list will virtually guarantee that no one will take the enormous quantity of time to refute all of the points, especially considering that given their disposition, it is unlikely that any point will be conceded.

So that troll gets fed just these tiny crumbs (and will probably go frantically raving around for more, but that would happen anyway).

Alderaan said:

One of the worst parts of the film was when the CGI prequel monsters got loose on Han’s freighter. That whole part of the film was not Star Wars. The tone was wrong. Anyone else feel the same?

Yeah. I think it can be edited better though, and lost total minutes replaced with some deleted footage. The concept wasn’t wrong at all, but the execution was off. I think more than anything it was the bad guys, their scene was like some shitty scene in a SciFi network schlock show.

luckydube56 said:

I didnt like how Chewie walked right past Leia after returning from their mission where Han dies. Are they strangers?

THIS. So much.

TV’s Frink said:

Before anyone goes ape over that statement, it’s absolutely fine to not like TFA, and I have some issues with it myself. But my god some of the bending over backwards just trying to justify hating TFA by some (not all) here is amazing.

+1000. I didn’t know this was… oh wait. This is the hater’s honeypot. Bosk basically made this to attract Smoking Lizard.

Oh my god. They’re both lizards. This is their breeding ground.

WE HAVE TO GET OUT