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A number of things about this movie bothered me, and Leia/Carrie Fisher wasn’t one of them.
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To me all Han-Leia interactions in the film seemed awkward, wooden and forced.
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If Ep.VIII is going for the ANH/TFA route again, I will no doubt completely avoid it 😄
I bet you $5000 that you watch Episode VIII no matter what.
What if I told you that, understanding that TFA would’be been mostly a commercial product, I wasn’t going to buy a single ticket for this movie? I watched it just because my friends begged me to 😄
I can say Ron Jeremy begged me to go, but doesn’t automatically make it true.
You’re free not to believe me, no problem.
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I believe you said you weren’t going to pay to watch Episode VII.
But then you paid to watch Episode VII.
And you’ll pay to watch VIII and IX too.
And probably all the ‘Star Wars Stories’ too.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true 😉
War does not make one great.
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She wasn’t great but she didn’t suck. She wasn’t given much to do, and I thought her discussion with Han about Ben was pretty good stuff.
Well she wasn’t given much and wasn’t able to ruin much.
I also don’t remember her stepping in shit.
This “argument” is on a 10 years old level (or less).
I know a pretty smart eight-year-old. Smarter than some of the “adults” on this site, that’s for sure.
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Pfft. There’re no adults here.
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Some people just can’t deal with Carrie not looking like she did in 1983.
It would be nice to have a reunion scene with Luke since we were denied a scene with the big three together just one last time.
I hope they did take a “class photo” as was done on the prequels, with all the characters together. They would probably hold back on releasing that until the movie has been out a while though.
Where were you in '77?
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This reminds me of a discussion on another forum where someone complained about how old Harrison looked. As if Han wouldn’t look old.
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TV’s Frink said:
I know a pretty smart eight-year-old. Smarter than some of the “adults” on this site, that’s for sure.
Yes I realised I would offend many kids by comparing their level to such a bad argument. I was just trying to be as polite to you as possible.
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My god man, it was a joke, not an argument. I apologize for assuming you wouldn’t need that explained. That’s what I get for trying to be polite.
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My god man, it was a joke, not an argument. I apologize for assuming you wouldn’t need that explained. That’s what I get for trying to be polite.
Either it was a very bad argument or a very bad joke.
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To me all Han-Leia interactions in the film seemed awkward, wooden and forced.
Yeah I thought so too. Even in ROTJ there was a bit of twinkle. I think part of that is down the way those scenes were paced and scored. Someone should go and watch On Golden Pond and Lion In Winter for editing tips. Even The African Queen. All successfully gritty romances between older actors/characters.
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On Golden Pond? I’d rather watch Attack of the Clones again.
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“Listen to me, mister. You’re my Jedi knight in shining armor. Don’t forget it. You’re going to get back on that Taun Taun and I’m going to be right behind you, holding on tight and away we’re going to go, go, go!” 😉
Where were you in '77?
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The editing in TFA was terrible. I had a conversation with a top Hollywood editor and he seemed offended I would think so and said I was wrong.
But I stand by my point. It’s downright terrible in TFA.
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Yoda Is Your Father said:
I believe you said you weren’t going to pay to watch Episode VII.But then you paid to watch Episode VII.
And you’ll pay to watch VIII and IX too.
And probably all the ‘Star Wars Stories’ too.
Search your feelings, you know it to be true 😉
“Never! I’ll never turn to the fans’ side. I’m not for the ride, I like “The Empire” and the whole OT.”
😄 I like originality. It wouldn’t be the first time a franchise I like turns into just another product, and not the first time I’d stop watching sequels to look for something else, something new and original.
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On Golden Pond? I’d rather watch Attack of the Clones again.
String beans to Utah guess 😄
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The editing in TFA was terrible. I had a conversation with a top Hollywood editor and he seemed offended I would think so and said I was wrong.
But I stand by my point. It’s downright terrible in TFA.
Agreed. The pacing and overall editing was honestly the worst part of the movie.
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What are the specific complaints regarding the pacing? Too fast? Too slow? I didn’t have an issue with it either time I saw it, nor did any of the top Hollywood editors I’m friends with. And I’m friends with most of them, although obviously I can’t name any of them.
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What are the specific complaints regarding the pacing? Too fast? Too slow? I didn’t have an issue with it either time I saw it, nor did any of the top Hollywood editors I’m friends with. And I’m friends with most of them, although obviously I can’t name any of them.
I felt that it was way too fast-paced with no time to breathe during much of it, especially the beginning. Certain parts were OK (the section of the movie set at Maz’ castle wasn’t too bad), but overall, it felt like a rollercoaster ride with no time to enjoy the scenery.
But maybe I’m just old. ;P
Also, the destruction of Starkiller base seemed anticlimactic thanks to the way the third act was edited–though I didn’t immediately realize that the planet was crumbling due to the destruction of the oscillator (like we saw near the end of the lightsaber fight), or whatever happened, so the buildup is probably better than my impression of it was.
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TV’s Frink said:
I know a pretty smart eight-year-old. Smarter than some of the “adults” on this site, that’s for sure.
Ummm…excuse me…I’m still in the room.
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What are the specific complaints regarding the pacing? Too fast? Too slow? I didn’t have an issue with it either time I saw it, nor did any of the top Hollywood editors I’m friends with. And I’m friends with most of them, although obviously I can’t name any of them.
I felt that it was way too fast-paced with no time to breathe during much of it, especially the beginning. Certain parts were OK (the section of the movie set at Maz’ castle wasn’t too bad), but overall, it felt like a rollercoaster ride with no time to enjoy the scenery.
What about all the time with Rey before she meets up with Finn? Plenty of time to enjoy the scenery and her performance.
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Didn’t like the pacing, fine. Could have been better, sure. But terrible editing? That’s just downright silly.
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What about all the time with Rey before she meets up with Finn? Plenty of time to enjoy the scenery and her performance.
The first sequence was a disaster and should have been cut. The rest of Act I with Rey on Jakku was done pretty well I thought. This was the only part of the film that was allowed to breathe. The bit on the freighter was intolerable. After that, the film just felt rushed and jerky, no rhythm whatsoever. As Ric pointed out, I think the editing of the space battle in the final act was really poorly done. There was no dramatic tension at all.
I remember in the trailer there is a wide shot of BB-8 in the X-wing set against the snowy landscape on Starkiller, and all these TIE fighters start closing in. Such a dramatic and foreboding shot, but it wasn’t even edited right in the final film … I remember seeing it at the theater and thinking “that’s all they did with that great shot?” Then it was just pew-pew yippee we did it! Game over.
Another potentially great moment in the film was the reveal of Darth Vader’s melted helment. As it turns out, the thing was on screen for a total of 0.5 seconds right at the end of a scene and that’s it. The camera was on Kylo talking to himself for 30 seconds or whatever, and then only so briefly do we see Vader’s helmet. There is no buildup towards this scene, no real context that Kylo wants to “finish what he started”, so this huge reveal really calls for the film to
Stop.
Call attention to the helmet. And Kylo.
Really let it sit in for a moment.
And then carry on.
…Instead, we see it on screen for half a second and then mid-transition – welp – we’re onto the next action sequence just like that, no big deal.
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Didn’t like the pacing, fine. Could have been better, sure. But terrible editing? That’s just downright silly.
Perhaps terrible is hyperbole. I’m sure it could have been much worse.
I will just say I thought it didn’t meet my expectations.