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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 26

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It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly critical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t enjoy a movie for what it is … a joy ride, an escape, a family and friends experience … Star Wars has never been about brain surgery or a cure for cancer … it is supposed to be fun. My daughter and I had fun and finally got to see some of our favorite characters back on the big screen, together again, part of yet another adventure … that is what made it fun for us.

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It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly uncritical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t see that this movie is a lazy, nostalgic cash grab… True, Star Wars has never been about brain surgery or a cure for cancer … but I wasn’t expecting a remake of Episode IV either. How anyone can think this is acceptable, is a mystery to me. I did not have fun and didn’t even got to see some of my favorite characters back on the big screen, together again, part of yet another adventure (Leia only has a cameo and Luke is hardly in it at all) … that is what made it so disappointing for some of us.

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Jetrell Fo said:

It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly critical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t enjoy a movie for what it is … a joy ride, an escape, a family and friends experience … Star Wars has never been about brain surgery or a cure for cancer … it is supposed to be fun. My daughter and I had fun and finally got to see some of our favorite characters back on the big screen, together again, part of yet another adventure … that is what made it fun for us.

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Luke, Leia, and Han didn’t share a scene. Luke didn’t speak. WORST MOVIE EVER.

What.

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Jetrell Fo said:

It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly critical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t enjoy a movie for what it is … a joy ride, an escape, a family and friends experience … Star Wars has never been about brain surgery or a cure for cancer … it is supposed to be fun. My daughter and I had fun and finally got to see some of our favorite characters back on the big screen, together again, part of yet another adventure … that is what made it fun for us.

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Agree 100%. There are flaws, no doubt, but this was a hell of a fun movie.

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Ironic that the master of sarcasm doesn’t understand sarcasm.

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Luke, Leia, and Han didn’t share a scene. Luke didn’t speak. WORST MOVIE EVER.

What.

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Jetrell Fo said:

It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly critical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t enjoy a movie for what it is … a joy ride, an escape, a family and friends experience …

This is what you think a movie is. It’s not necessarily what we all think a movie is.

Star Wars definitely falls on the action/adventure side of the scale and shouldn’t receive the same scrutiny as Interstellar, but after ESB, which is a good film in its own right, I expected Star Wars to keep growing up. ROTJ regressed quite a bit, but still had its moments. The prequels couldn’t make up their minds, going back and forth between politics and poop jokes.

If not ESB’s quality, I was at least expecting ESB’s sophistication, especially given the writers. TFA has some really nice dramatic moments in it, and that’s why I give it a 5 or 6 out of 10. The missing four points are for almost a complete lack of originality and general stupidity.

It’s condescending to suggest that because some fans didn’t get what they hoped for from TFA that somehow they don’t understand the point of a movie. I could just as easily suggest that people who eagerly accept TFA-style filmmaking lack sophistication and don’t understand what the art of filmmaking is about — which would make me a pretentious ass.

Anyone who went in wanting ANH, but not expecting it to be quite as good, got what they wanted. People like me, who wanted ESB, but not as good, were disappointed.

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Jay said:

Anyone who went in wanting ANH, but not expecting it to be quite as good, got what they wanted. People like me, who wanted ESB, but not as good, were disappointed.

Maybe you’re right? ANH is my favorite movie and I went in expecting a not-as-good modern retelling and got what I wanted. In my mind, since I expected rehashed elements, I was delighted by the little twists and ways things were different than ANH, but was also able to accept the way the film was reminiscent of ANH, both in structure and spirit.

I’m sorry if you and others can’t appreciate the film due to its lack of originality, but I can only hope you guys might be able to enjoy it then next time you see it and know what to expect.

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They should call the next one “Lord of the Jedi: Fellowship of the Lightsaber”

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Jay said:

Jetrell Fo said:

It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly critical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t enjoy a movie for what it is … a joy ride, an escape, a family and friends experience …

This is what you think a movie is. It’s not necessarily what we all think a movie is.

Star Wars definitely falls on the action/adventure side of the scale and shouldn’t receive the same scrutiny as Interstellar, but after ESB, which is a good film in its own right, I expected Star Wars to keep growing up. ROTJ regressed quite a bit, but still had its moments. The prequels couldn’t make up their minds, going back and forth between politics and poop jokes.

If not ESB’s quality, I was at least expecting ESB’s sophistication, especially given the writers. TFA has some really nice dramatic moments in it, and that’s why I give it a 5 or 6 out of 10. The missing four points are for almost a complete lack of originality and general stupidity.

It’s condescending to suggest that because some fans didn’t get what they hoped for from TFA that somehow they don’t understand the point of a movie. I could just as easily suggest that people who eagerly accept TFA-style filmmaking lack sophistication and don’t understand what the art of filmmaking is about — which would make me a pretentious ass.

Anyone who went in wanting ANH, but not expecting it to be quite as good, got what they wanted. People like me, who wanted ESB, but not as good, were disappointed.

As I stated in my original post, I meant no disrespect to anyone, I thought I was pretty clear right out of the gate. I wasn’t calling anyone out. I still won’t. I went in to the movie expecting nothing but a Star Wars adventure with characters I love and I got it.

If that’s condescending in any way then apparently I know nothing about Star Wars and don’t deserve to be a member here.

My apologies to anyone who took it personal.

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I wouldn’t feel so frustrated if I felt the story had been really worth a damn or if it actually fit within the SW universe.
It doesn’t help the corporation’s paws are all over it.

But again that’s my two cents and kudos to all those who enjoyed themselves.

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captainsolo said:

I wouldn’t feel so frustrated if I felt the story had been really worth a damn or if it actually fit within the SW universe.
It doesn’t help the corporation’s paws are all over it.

But again that’s my two cents and kudos to all those who enjoyed themselves.

I can see and I understand the frustration some fans feel about it, I do get it. It is my hope that this is a simple start to something far more extraordinary for those who weren’t as pleased as I was and for those of us who are already on board for the ride with TFA.

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Yoda Is Your Father said:

I get what you’re saying, actually. But short of JJ shunning modern cameras and effects and only using outdated techniques from the 70s, what are you gonna do? I’d go see a 100% retro Star Wars VII with models and matte paintings but I don’t think modern audiences would accept that, which would mean the film would flop and episodes VIII and IX would never happen.

One thing I do think they could have done is stick to puppets instead of CG characters. That would have made it feel more like Star Wars, in my opinion.

Oh I completely understand. I meant more that I think my own personal definition of how the franchise should look just isn’t going to happen. I think that if they actually tried to recreate the 1970s Star Wars it would’ve been a disaster and people, understandably so, would not have accepted that. I think it’s more of my own disconnect with the franchise at this point that hindered my enjoyment.

I should clarify that after sleeping on it and reconsidering things I think I really did underestimate the movie, and I enjoyed watching it until what I felt was an unsatisfying end to one of my favorite characters in all of fiction. I had to vent on some of my grievances after being frustrated by the abrupt death of Han; up until that point I was actually really pleased with most of it, albeit with some gripes here and there. I would say that it was somewhere between a 6 or 7 out of 10 after taking a step back and looking at the whole movie not considering my main complaint. I need to see it again and maybe it will grow on me, the action scenes were certainly exciting and felt much more real than the prequels, specifically the lightsaber duel. It also didn’t help my experience that a screaming infant was somewhere in the theatre, but thankfully they left halfway through. I also thought Harrison Ford was good throughout the whole movie as it really felt like I was watching Han Solo (which was not the case with Indy in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull), and I loved Luke’s reveal at the end along with the concept of Luke being in hiding and the rebels looking for him. The three new main protagonists were very good too so I’m optimistic about future installments. After rereading my previous post it came across that I hated the movie, which is not the case, and I will be seeing it again sometime within the next few weeks to reappraise it.

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They were going to scan the Falcon, but the scanning crew got knocked out, or Chewie ate them, I’m not clear on that part. 😉

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kriegdersterne said:

Ironic that the master of sarcasm doesn’t understand sarcasm.

TV’s Frink said:

Luke, Leia, and Han didn’t share a scene. Luke didn’t speak. WORST MOVIE EVER.

What.

Well, I’ve heard those complaints from others, and I don’t know you from a hole in the forum, so there’s nothing that indicates sarcasm there.

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Here’s what I’d like to see, a very hungry wookiee, on a bad acid trip and maybe half drunk also.

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boredom3031 said:

Here’s what I’d like to see, a very hungry wookiee, on a bad acid trip and maybe half drunk also.

Sounds like you’ve never seen the Star Wars Holiday Special.

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Jetrell Fo said:

As I stated in my original post, I meant no disrespect to anyone, I thought I was pretty clear right out of the gate. I wasn’t calling anyone out. I still won’t. I went in to the movie expecting nothing but a Star Wars adventure with characters I love and I got it.

If that’s condescending in any way then apparently I know nothing about Star Wars and don’t deserve to be a member here.

The drama isn’t necessary.

Your opinion of the film and your having enjoyed it aren’t condescending at all. This is:

It is only now, after reading remarks in this thread, that I see how overly critical some of the fans are. I mean no disrespect to anyone and I will not point out any 1 person, it just seems that some can’t enjoy a movie for what it is

You and I have different opinions about what makes for a good movie, but I don’t think this makes you less discerning or lacking in taste, just like my preferences don’t make me overly critical or unable to enjoy a good movie.

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I just got back from watching TFA for the third time. In case you haven’t guessed, I’m firmly in the ‘love it’ camp.

Upon multiple viewings, my girlfriend and I (she’s seen it twice) both got the impression that Han Solo and Kylo Ren might know who Rey is (or at least suspect who she is). That might also explain why Leia hugs Rey the first time they meet (although ignoring Chewie is still inforgiveable!).

As a side note, this time I saw it on a non-digital screen in a crappy old local cinema and it helped it feel a bit closer visually to the Original Trilogy. If you plan on seeing it multiple times I suggest mixing it up - So far I’ve seen it in IMAX 3D, digital 2D and non-digital crappy 2D. Each time was different (but all great).

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Anchorhead said:

boredom3031 said:

Here’s what I’d like to see, a very hungry wookiee, on a bad acid trip and maybe half drunk also.

Sounds like you’ve never seen the Star Wars Holiday Special.

Last time I seen that, I thought that I was the one on an acid trip. 😄

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“Stir, whip, stir, whip. Whip, whip, stir.”

“WWWWAAAAAHHHH!”

There’s a reason why I accept The Holiday Special as semi-canon. 😉

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Just got back from a second viewing with my wife. We both rated it the same as before, maybe even slightly higher. I’ve been relaying the criticisms people here have expressed and she’s as baffled as I am. This was a great movie.