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TV’s Frink said:

Anyone who loved the ROTS final duel must have a thing for twirling dance fights and Frogger.

FTFY

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Return of the Jedi is the best Star Wars prequel. Just avoid the PT altogether unless you’re curious on how bad they are. It’s funny how all of Star Wars is built on those first two movies alone. But in my opinion watch the three movies of the OT.

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TV’s Frink said:
But you’re the one who likes the final duel.

Eh, not really?
I only said I liked it as a kid because I mean, there’s fucking lava and there’s a saber duel going on. I have fond memories of pretending the floor was lava while I dueled with my little brother at the time, but that was over 10 years ago for me.

Now I much prefer the duels of Luke and Vader, even Empire Strikes Back for obvious reasons that have been stated numerous times.

Prequel stuff is often a source of great humor for me to appreciate, in the parodies that is, and not the actual ‘jokes’ that try to pass as jokes in the films. I still hold some attachment to the prequels actually, but it doesn’t match up to the same level of my younger self anymore.

The Rise of Failures

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Sorry, I missed the “kid me” part of your post.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Yes … ah … um … what?

Unfortunately, this has been a trending joke among viewers. Since this is the time ever for a film to take place AFTER Return of the Jedi, now all six films are jokingly called “the prequels”

When I read this somewhere else, it eerily came across as a dark and morbid joke. I can only see this joke growing more among the community.

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It’s a sad fucking day when you realize that the franchise that you love is an utter mediocrity that has been sucking nonstop for over four decades. Even the OT is no longer the untainted holy trinity we all thought when we were younger, and that’s before the Special Editions arrived. All we have is ONE good sequel, two okay films that just rips off elements from the first two films, and a really horrendous prequel trilogy that chains it all down.

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generalfrevious said:

It’s a sad fucking day when you realize that the franchise that you love is an utter mediocrity that has been sucking nonstop for over four decades. Even the OT is no longer the untainted holy trinity we all thought when we were younger, and that’s before the Special Editions arrived. All we have is ONE good sequel, two okay films that just rips off elements from the first two films, and a really horrendous prequel trilogy that chains it all down.

Relax.

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He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

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TavorX said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Yes … ah … um … what?

Unfortunately, this has been a trending joke among viewers. Since this is the time ever for a film to take place AFTER Return of the Jedi, now all six films are jokingly called “the prequels”

When I read this somewhere else, it eerily came across as a dark and morbid joke. I can only see this joke growing more among the community.

I read it as a reference to ROTJ being the first movie where a prequel sensibility starts to creep into the franchise, even though it was only 1983. Burp jokes, for example.

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TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

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generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

Why not watch what you like, ignore what you don’t, and move on?

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boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

Why not watch what you like, ignore what you don’t, and move on?

The bad stuff is still canon. Yes you could ignore it, but it’s still part of the franchise, and in the collective pop culture imagination. You see commercials, people on the street, pop culture references on Star Wars, and no one realizes that most of it is subpar, and has been since the early 1980s.
But with the new movies coming out from Disney, this could be a course correction towards being good again, as long as no one messes it up.

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generalfrevious said:

boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

Why not watch what you like, ignore what you don’t, and move on?

The bad stuff is still canon. Yes you could ignore it, but it’s still part of the franchise, and in the collective pop culture imagination. You see commercials, people on the street, pop culture references on Star Wars, and no one realizes that most of it is subpar, and has been since the early 1980s.
But with the new movies coming out from Disney, this could be a course correction towards being good again, as long as no one messes it up.

Doesn’t mean you’re forced into taking it into your own personal “canon”, or even having to watch the stuff for that matter. I absolutely hate the prequals, but I don’t own them, watch them, or spend my days thinking about them.

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boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

Why not watch what you like, ignore what you don’t, and move on?

The bad stuff is still canon. Yes you could ignore it, but it’s still part of the franchise, and in the collective pop culture imagination. You see commercials, people on the street, pop culture references on Star Wars, and no one realizes that most of it is subpar, and has been since the early 1980s.
But with the new movies coming out from Disney, this could be a course correction towards being good again, as long as no one messes it up.

Doesn’t mean you’re forced into taking it into your own personal “canon”, or even having to watch the stuff for that matter. I absolutely hate the prequals, but I don’t own them, watch them, or spend my days thinking about them.

I don’t dwell on the Prequels, it’s Jedi I’m focusing on. I can never reject that film, because it would be an incomplete story without it. Most of the problems people have with that film actually never bothered me that much. I wouldn’t know how bad it really was until I encountered these forums and other online review sites. The message is the same as in the PT: absolutely everything is done wrong, and it makes me hypocritical to ignore the prequels and pass Jedi at the same time.

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generalfrevious said:

boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

Why not watch what you like, ignore what you don’t, and move on?

The bad stuff is still canon. Yes you could ignore it, but it’s still part of the franchise, and in the collective pop culture imagination. You see commercials, people on the street, pop culture references on Star Wars, and no one realizes that most of it is subpar, and has been since the early 1980s.
But with the new movies coming out from Disney, this could be a course correction towards being good again, as long as no one messes it up.

Doesn’t mean you’re forced into taking it into your own personal “canon”, or even having to watch the stuff for that matter. I absolutely hate the prequals, but I don’t own them, watch them, or spend my days thinking about them.

I don’t dwell on the Prequels, it’s Jedi I’m focusing on. I can never reject that film, because it would be an incomplete story without it. Most of the problems people have with that film actually never bothered me that much. I wouldn’t know how bad it really was until I encountered these forums and other online review sites. The message is the same as in the PT: absolutely everything is done wrong, and it makes me hypocritical to ignore the prequels and pass Jedi at the same time.

The prequals wasn’t really the point, the point is why dwell on something that you obviously don’t like and it’s driving you nuts? I wouldn’t punish myself into continuing to experience something I have an obvious distaste for. And you can ignore any movie, book, game, or whatever you want. They’re just movies, they aren’t entire philosophies to live your life by.

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boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

boredom3031 said:

generalfrevious said:

TV’s Frink said:

He did, for one day after seeing TFA. Then it was back to frevious-as-usual.

The reason I act this way is that Lucas has treated us (the fans) with contempt for thirty years. Our dollars were used to build his mansion, and he gives us bread stuffed with nails (a la Salo) as a token of gratitude. We have gone nearly twenty years without an official release of the real cuts of the OT, and if it wasn’t for the despecialized editions we would never see them again. All because the man has spent most of his life detached from any logical reality, and so he gives an endless parade of bizarre events that just leave me in a state of contant frustration.

Why not watch what you like, ignore what you don’t, and move on?

The bad stuff is still canon. Yes you could ignore it, but it’s still part of the franchise, and in the collective pop culture imagination. You see commercials, people on the street, pop culture references on Star Wars, and no one realizes that most of it is subpar, and has been since the early 1980s.
But with the new movies coming out from Disney, this could be a course correction towards being good again, as long as no one messes it up.

Doesn’t mean you’re forced into taking it into your own personal “canon”, or even having to watch the stuff for that matter. I absolutely hate the prequals, but I don’t own them, watch them, or spend my days thinking about them.

I don’t dwell on the Prequels, it’s Jedi I’m focusing on. I can never reject that film, because it would be an incomplete story without it. Most of the problems people have with that film actually never bothered me that much. I wouldn’t know how bad it really was until I encountered these forums and other online review sites. The message is the same as in the PT: absolutely everything is done wrong, and it makes me hypocritical to ignore the prequels and pass Jedi at the same time.

The prequals wasn’t really the point, the point is why dwell on something that you obviously don’t like and it’s driving you nuts? I wouldn’t punish myself into continuing to experience something I have an obvious distaste for. And you can ignore any movie, book, game, or whatever you want. They’re just movies, they aren’t entire philosophies to live your life by.

But I don’t hate Jedi. I have never really hated or even disliked it, and don’t want to.

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GlastoEls said:

generalfrevious said:

It’s a sad fucking day when you realize that the franchise that you love is an utter mediocrity that has been sucking nonstop for over four decades. Even the OT is no longer the untainted holy trinity we all thought when we were younger, and that’s before the Special Editions arrived. All we have is ONE good sequel, two okay films that just rips off elements from the first two films, and a really horrendous prequel trilogy that chains it all down.

Relax.

FTFY

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DuracellEnergizer said:

generalfrevious said:

But I don’t hate Jedi. I have never really hated or even disliked it, and don’t want to.

For a movie you don’t hate or dislike, you sure piss and moan over it a lot.

Most OT fans complain about it; I’m just copying what everyone has been saying on online forums for a decade. I didn’t have a problem with the film until I started lurking on this forum back in 2004, when I heard about the bullshit DVD changes.