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TavorX
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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22-Dec-2015, 3:34 PM

Warbler said:
“if my idiot brother hadn’t left, maybe Han might still be alive. My brother was able to turn my father of all people back to the light, why in hell didn’t he at least try with my son! Due to him stupidly leaving, both my lover is dead and my son is probably too far gone to be saved! I am so angry with him I almost want to turn to the darkside, become a sith and hunt him down myself!”

That sounds kinda too dramatic in all honesty. There has been 30 years here that we’re not fully aware of. I’m pretty sure Luke did all he could in his power to make Ben see the light but failed due to the overpowering influence of Snoke on Ben. Blaming Luke for Han’s death is just too unfair I wouldn’t see Leia doing that. Leia has fought in the Galactic Civil War. She has seen her homeworld destroyed. Leia knows death very well. I’m not implying Leia feels nothing. I’m just saying Leia probably sees Han as a thankful temporary happinees in her life. He’s gone and nothing is going to change that, and again, death isn’t some new thing to Leia to experience.

As for Leia and Chewie not consoling each other: I took as Chewie not realizing Leia already knew Han was dead. I thought maybe it was too difficult for Chewie to bring himself to tell her. Put yourself in Chewie’s shoes. If your best friend died, would it be easy for you to be the one to tell his/her spouse? As for Chewie taking off with Rey to find to Luke, I had no problem with it. Even with Han dead, Chewie would still want to do his duty.

This is honestly the BEST answer I’ve seen for this criticism. I never could quite pinpoint why Chewie didn’t, but after reading this, I fully back this.

btw, I never picked up that Obiwan was talking to Rey when she first picked up the lightsaber.

Same here. Still, after reading about how they ‘fan’ edited Alec’s line of “AfRAId” into “Rey”, that’s pretty cool imo.

I too thought this movie resembled too much ANH. The droid having info everyone wants. Same droid trying to return info the rebellion/resistance. massive weapon. massive weapon demonstrating its power killing a lot of people which no one mourns much. massive weapon being made ready to use on rebellion/resistance. Leia waiting at rebellion/resistance base to see if X-wings will destroy massive weapon or will massive weapon destroy her. Jedi sentient living in the middle of nowhere, possibly hidden there. I am almost surprised that Luke wasn’t the one fighting Kylo Ren, with him letting Ren kill him to let the others escape.

There’s no denying the same beats are here, but different things are achieved and there are different goals now. I have no issue with that.

btw anyone think it curious how similar the names of the bad guy and good girl are? Rey and Ren?

It could be simply Ben wanting to sound badass by replacing B with R. But I don’t really think it means brother and sister, but cousins certainly is plausible.