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Star Wars Episode I: Cloak Of Deception (Released) — Page 9

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One of the links went down, so I replaced them and passed the updated info to the admin, who hasn’t responded yet. It’ll be up soon, and the other two formats should still be available.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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StevenE said:

I might do some slight modifications to the DVD case images so they fit in a bluray case. If so I’ll share with everyone.

I took the DVD case art and resized it to fit a bluray (also swapped the DVD logo out and added a bluray logo). There’s basically just a bunch of extra blank space now, but at least it will fit a bluray case properly.

http://imgur.com/a/8HVGJ

Sorry for the rush job on this. Please let me know if anybody does a better one later.

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Great edit!

I’m upgrading from V3 to V4 for Cloak of Deception. When making a BD in TSMuxer, do I still need to switch to “Do Not Change SEI and VUI data,” as was necessary for V3?

I already burned a copy, and it didn’t work. I think I switched it to “Do not change,” but I might have forgotten. If anyone who’s successfully burned a copy could chime in, it’d be much appreciated.

EDIT: I confirmed that I did switch it to “Do not change.” But, again, even doing this, the copy didn’t work.

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Hal 9000 said:

One of the links went down, so I replaced them and passed the updated info to the admin, who hasn’t responded yet. It’ll be up soon, and the other two formats should still be available.

It’s been updated; all should be well with it.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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The Aluminum Falcon said:

Great edit!

I’m upgrading from V3 to V4 for Cloak of Deception. When making a BD in TSMuxer, do I still need to switch to “Do Not Change SEI and VUI data,” as was necessary for V3?

I already burned a copy, and it didn’t work. I think I switched it to “Do not change,” but I might have forgotten. If anyone who’s successfully burned a copy could chime in, it’d be much appreciated.

EDIT: I confirmed that I did switch it to “Do not change.” But, again, even doing this, the copy didn’t work.

Worked fine with the ‘do not insert’ or whatever for me. BUt those discs still have the green flashing on PS4s.

Hal9000: I’m not sure what you use to encode, but the error only happened for me when I used a specific version of Premiere (2012 I think) and it goes away with newer builds. Others online have experienced the same.

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Hey Hal, awesome edit! This finally makes Ep1 enjoyable. Thanks a lot! 😃

just curious:
You mentioned subtitles in your release info, but I only get chapter texts when activating English Sub in VLC ( 720p download). Are full subtitles available at all ?

Alternatively, is there a text transcript for Cloak of Deception?

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towne32 said:

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Great edit!

I’m upgrading from V3 to V4 for Cloak of Deception. When making a BD in TSMuxer, do I still need to switch to “Do Not Change SEI and VUI data,” as was necessary for V3?

I already burned a copy, and it didn’t work. I think I switched it to “Do not change,” but I might have forgotten. If anyone who’s successfully burned a copy could chime in, it’d be much appreciated.

EDIT: I confirmed that I did switch it to “Do not change.” But, again, even doing this, the copy didn’t work.

Worked fine with the ‘do not insert’ or whatever for me. BUt those discs still have the green flashing on PS4s.

Hal9000: I’m not sure what you use to encode, but the error only happened for me when I used a specific version of Premiere (2012 I think) and it goes away with newer builds. Others online have experienced the same.

Thanks. The first copy I burned actually worked when I put it in my PS3. I guess I set it to “Do not change,” after all. Issue was that one of my BD players (a stand-alone Sony) doesn’t recognize the disc because of how it’s formatted. Ah well…

Still my go-to TPM edit! For the record, I’ve checked out Q2’s and L8wrtr’s versions, which are good, but HAL 9000’s simply trumps them both, in terms of editing choices and overall AV quality. The edited climax is especially effective, even moreso than L8wrtr’s, which I understand influenced HAL.

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Seems to be a very interesting edit you’ve achived. I’m not such how well it could really improve the overall plot but removing the most embarrassing bits of dialogues and scenes should at least make it a better experience. As Lucas is not likely to deliver a “Prelogy special edition”, your edit will do the job done.

I’ll try to give you a feedback as soon as I have watched them.

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Ok, this new cut is very good. I still need to rewatch a few sequences to be sure about a few things, but for 2 key parts (the pod race - the music montage is clever - and the battle of Naboo) the improvement is stricking: Jar Jar is less annoying, Anakin saves the day purposely; i really like that. I personally would have kept the throne room action scene for continuity reasons. If I can find enough time i’ll try to produce french subtitles so more people can enjoy this cut.

edit: well, i’m not sure about the pod scene just before the betting. The scene itself is quite good and well edited, but the special effets are not finished. Maybe the opening shot on the kid ridding the thing (i don’t know the name) is to be removed. Otherwise it’s afair choice over the original “making podracer” scene. And the complete removal of the “blood sample test” scene is gold 😃

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Hal,

You categorize these edits as being akin to “FanFix” fanedits. What exactly does that mean? I know FanFix.com was a once functioning site, but what makes a FanFix-style edit different from any other edit?

I think it’s an important thing to expound on because when reading the descriptions of your edits, I had no idea what you meant regarding this.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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From the FanEdit.org/ifdb main page.

FanFix With a FanFix, the editor is typically attempting clean-up or otherwise modify the original so as to make it a more enjoyable viewing experience. Quite often this entails adding and/or removing portions of the movie, reordering scenes and in general, addressing aspects of story and/or character that detract from the movie. In general terms, a FanFix tends to be an effort to polish the movie, often removing contrivances added by studios or filmmakers which interfere with the story. The goal here is not to invent a new movie or narrative, but to clean-up the existing one and hopefully make the movie more enjoyable. Examples of FanFixes are havok1977’s Codename: Wolverine, gekko’s Mission Impossible 2: Disavowed and The Phantom Editor’s Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Edit.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Could I have a link to Cloak of Deception? Really looking forward to seeing an improved Episode I.

Thanks!

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Hey Hal, I just completed an edit for my own personal viewing that mixes and matches changes from your and L8wrtr’s edit (with a little bit from the Phantom Editor as well). I used your edit as the primary video source and spliced in bits from L8wrtr’s edit where needed (with a little grain and color correction to match it). Would you be opposed to me uploading this to Myspleen or elsewhere? With proper credit given of course.

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Octorox said:

Hey Hal, I just completed an edit for my own personal viewing that mixes and matches changes from your and L8wrtr’s edit (with a little bit from the Phantom Editor as well). I used your edit as the primary video source and spliced in bits from L8wrtr’s edit where needed (with a little grain and color correction to match it). Would you be opposed to me uploading this to Myspleen or elsewhere? With proper credit given of course.

Do you have a detailed list of the changes ? (at least compared to Hal9000’s edit).

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I’ll compile one when I put it up. But to sum it up I’d say that the basic flow is Hal’s with a lot of extra dialogue nips and tucks from L8wrtrs. Use of JarJar is kind of at a happy medium between the two edits but I agree with Hal’s general philosophy that if he’s present throughout the majority of the movie he should at least have something to do. I’ve removed the “morning of the race” deleted scene and readded the cut-down version of the “working on the pod” scene from l8wrtr’s edit. In fact, the only deleted scene in this version is the scene of Qui-Gon cutting down the probe droid. I’ve also removed the visual of the podrace announcers Fode and Beed, but you still hear both of their voices, which is another compromise between the two edits. I would say that’s the general philosophy of this hybrid. I think l8wrtr is sometimes a little overzealous with his cuts to the point where it can hurt the pacing of the film and character development, but on the other hand Hal’s is too conservative for my tastes and leaves a lot of cringey dialogue, despite some brilliant ideas like cutting the trip to Otoh Gunga completely. This is just an attempt to find a happy medium between the two that suits my personal tastes.

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Ok, i’m looking forward to watching this, but as you write it, it doesn’t seem to change so much things; and as a matter of fact I agree with Hal’s point of view of leaving some “necessary evil” scenes, in order to keep a more natural flow to the movie. For example, the “clean R2D2 scene” is “necessary evil”, because it leads to the only scene where we learn who Jar Jar is and we hear “gungans” for the first time - the obnoxious gungan city scene having been cut -, which is needed here since Jar Jar and the gungans are key plot elements of the third act. As for the “dawn before race”, it adds a better buddy scene between 3PO and R2 while having a brief “Padmé and Anakin alone” moment (which is nice considering the next movies).

@ Hal: I have almost finished a french srt file using subtitle worshop (my family members aren’t all fluent in english). If you want it, I’ll send it to you so more people can enjoy your cut (with minor corrections it would also fit to other edits).

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@ Hal9000 : I have completed the french subtitles file. I’ll make a last check by showing your edit to my family, and then I’ll send it to you. If someone (like Octorox) makes another cut based on yours, it would be simple to keep the correct french subtitles with an accurate “time” log book. The timing is precise and the translation is closer to the english text than their bluray counterparts ('cause french subtitles are often based on french dubbing, so there are always minor differencies), so it’s possible to use this file to produce accurate english subtitles as well (I’m not gonna do it 😃 ).

I haven’t decided yet for Episode II and III. I think your Episode II v4 edit is likely to have my preferences; the v3 is fine and I believe the v4 is going to be improved (I truly hope you’ve trimmed the meadow pic nic !). I don’t know if you have corrected the irritating score issues, such as the Federation Army’s theme used for the Clone Army (on Kamino) and the Darth Vader’s Imperial March used for the Republic Army (ending scene), but I don’t believe any faneditor has ever tried that, or if it’s even possible to do it (maybe someday I will try myself, just need to learn how to use a montage software).

As for Episode III, I’m still puzzled with some of your choices, especially Padmé’s death and Vader’s “Noooo !”. The Yoda vs Emperor scene removal is also something I’m not really sure about : Yoda shouldn’t be fighting but on the other hand seeing the Emperor fighting the most powerful Jedi by throwing Senate Chairs has a strong symbolic value that fits perfectly the Prelogy narrative path of Palpatine (who would 19 years later dissolve this very same senate). So, for Episode III I’m still trying to choose between your edit and l8wrtr’s (who is currently editing a v2 version, isn’t he ?).

@ Octorox
On second thought I concur with you on two scenes:

  • re-added the cut-down version of the “working on the pod” scene from l8wrtr’s edit (but I would still keep the “dawn of the race” scene);

  • removed the visual of the podrace announcers Fode and Beed.

If I may, my “perfect cut” would also keep a few minor changes from L8WRTR version:

  • “Shadow of the Sith” title (but with Hal9000 text) (“cloak of deception” is really odd when translated in french : “Un vent de trahison”, which means “A wind of treason”) ;

  • re-added Anakin’s gift to Padmé (with trimmed dialogues) ;

  • removed Boss Nass weird “spiting twitch” (don’t know how to call this) ;

  • within the previous Boss Nass scene, I would also consider re-adding the line “Yousa no tinken yousa greater den da Gungans?” (L8WRTR version) and removing Amidala’s “my protection, my loyal bodyguard”, but it wouldn’t change much I confess ;

  • The better paced death of Darth Maul ;

Apart from these minor details, I agree with Hal9000 point fo view (even the Jar Jar close up, the droid nose joke, the Jar Jar encounter with Sebulba, etc.).