The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 13

SpilkaBilka said:

The rebel pilot helmet that Rey put on while she was eating- I’m pretty sure it had the red rebel insignia that was on Luke’s helmet, but I don’t remember any other details. Do you think it’s supposed to be Luke’s, or just a generic rebel helmet?

It’s a generic helmet - one not seen in the original films. You can tell because it had Aurebesh on the side, which none of the OT helmets did.

DominicCobb said:

I can’t believe so many people are dissing on the score. I think it’s gold. When I first saw the film it was admittedly hard to latch on to because so much of it was new, but I’ve listened to it non-stop since and when I saw the movie a second time the music was huge in my enjoyment.

I really suggest people listen to the soundtrack. It’s fantastic work, very well crafted. Definitely better than the half-assed AOTC or ROTS scores, and perhaps even on the same level or better than TPM or ROTJ. It doesn’t have huge stand out track like those, necessarily, but the whole of it, the way Williams develops the new themes, makes me almost appreciate this one more.

I’ve been listening to it a few times on Youtube, and it has some good bits, yes. My issue, and this issue alone could be only because I saw it once, but to my ears, the way the sound and the music score was edited together, it was pretty bad. If my ears aren’t deceiving me, the sound effects and the score was competing for a chance to stand out and as a result, William’s score got muddled out unusually for a Star Wars movie. Combined with a score that isn’t bombastic and swelling with William’s magic, there’s some problems.

Again, I could be totally in the wrong, but so far, I’ve read several comments saying similar things which is worrying.

Bosk said:
Okay I’ll have a go, luke will train rey in the force (even though shes picked it up!)

I’m not sure why you’re nitpicking this. Luke used the Force in A New Hope to blow up the Death Star. Luke already could use the Force on Hoth before getting trained by Yoda.

Bosk said:

TV’s Frink said:

Bosk said:

Pretty predictable what’s going to happen in the next installations.

Interesting. Perhaps you could share now, rather than after the next movie comes out.

Okay I’ll have a go, luke will train rey in the force (even though shes picked it up!) luke will have to fight ren possibly kill ren and the be defeated by snoke (probably in front of luke’s daughter, rey). The final installment will see rey as fully fledged powerful jediess take down snoke.

And Lando will help because Han was his buddy.

Haven’t seen it, but I heard it’s a really bad quality rip-off of the story in the first Star Wars, incredibly lacking in originality. To the point where any criticisms against how references to the original trilogy were handled in the prequels make Lucas seem like a master of subtlety…

Is that the feeling a lot of other Star Wars fans have that have already seen it?

Dunedain said:

Haven’t seen it, but I heard it’s a really bad quality rip-off of the story in the first Star Wars, incredibly lacking in originality. To the point where any criticisms against how references to the original trilogy were handled in the prequels make Lucas seem like a master of subtlety…

Is that the feeling a lot of other Star Wars fans have that have already seen it?

For me? No, not really. Yes, there are TONS of reviewers/fans mentioning how TFA is a New Hope rehash, but in all honesty, it’s setting the new trilogy in a great direction in my humble opinion. Most will say how Starkiller Base is very weak to reuse as Death Star III, but after thinking hard about it, I realize this is far different from A New Hope. Both Death Stars achieve VERY little if you think about it. Starkiller base? It does a SUBSTANTIAL amount and propels the trilogy in a possibly very interesting direction.

Yes, it’s so easy to notice the parallels, but again, these are new characters with different motivations and old characters have matured with different goals in mind.

Anchorhead said:

I forgot, but was Chewie with Rey as she went to see Luke?

Both Chewie and R2 went with her.
BB-8 wasn’t there as he (it?) was reunited with Poe. I’m getting the feeling that Rey will inherit not only the Falcon, but that R2 and Chewie will become her companions in the next films.

ZkinandBonez said:
I’m getting the feeling that Rey will inherit not only the Falcon, but that R2 and Chewie will become her companions in the next films.

I may be the minority in this, but I almost want the Falcon to be destroyed in this New Trilogy. The Falcon has seen a lot of action, but I’d like to think its time is nearing, just like Han’s. I’d more than welcome a new freighter for the new cast to use after the Falcon gets possibly blown to smithereens.

Bosk said:

TavorX said:

Bosk said:
Okay I’ll have a go, luke will train rey in the force (even though shes picked it up!)

I’m not sure why you’re nitpicking this. Luke used the Force in A New Hope to blow up the Death Star.

After having a quick training session by ob1… Yes. Rey just decided she could use it by closing her eyes mid battle

Well, she had heard the “stories” of Luke Skywalker and the rest of the gang, and she even seemed to know a fair amount of details. Although she said 14 parsecs to Solo rather than 12, that’s still a pretty specific detail. Her closing her eyes and finding the inner peace to defeat Kylo isn’t that weird in my opinion. Her knowing how to do a mind trick however, is a tad weirder. Then again, she might have heard of the trick before, but never considered the possibility that it was real, let alone available for her.

Also, what happened to the whole “awakening” in the Force thing? Wasn’t that supposed to be part of the plot, or where those just marketing blurbs?

Bosk said:

After having a quick training session by ob1… Yes. Rey just decided she could use it by closing her eyes mid battle

Obi Wan merely awakened Luke’s ability of the Force while on the Falcon. Once that happened, Luke could use the Force in a more focused way and blew up the Death Star.

Rey touched Luke’s old saber and was awakened of the Force and Maz further explained what that awakening meant.

Also think to how both Rey and Luke had to quickly learn to simply be aware of their ability and how both wanted to not trust it at first. Luke wanted to use his targeting computer and you could see his hesitation when Obi Wan told him “use the Force”. When Maz told Rey to close her eyes and feel the Force, she didn’t because she didn’t want to believe it herself. It wasn’t until the right moment when things were dire that she decided to accept the Force for what it was, remembered back to what Maz said, and closed her eyes to take in the gravity that is the Force.

hydrospanner said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Bosk said:

TavorX said:

Bosk said:
Okay I’ll have a go, luke will train rey in the force (even though shes picked it up!)

I’m not sure why you’re nitpicking this. Luke used the Force in A New Hope to blow up the Death Star.

After having a quick training session by ob1… Yes. Rey just decided she could use it by closing her eyes mid battle

Well, she had heard the “stories” of Luke Skywalker and the rest of the gang, and she even seemed to know a fair amount of details. Although she said 14 parsecs to Solo rather than 12, that’s still a pretty specific detail. Her closing her eyes and finding the inner peace to defeat Kylo isn’t that weird in my opinion. Her knowing how to do a mind trick however, is a tad weirder. Then again, she might have heard of the trick before, but never considered the possibility that it was real, let alone available for her.

Also, what happened to the whole “awakening” in the Force thing? Wasn’t that supposed to be part of the plot, or where those just marketing blurbs?

It also is quite likely and seems hinted at that she had some force training as a small child before she was left on Jakku that she repressed and started to rediscover as the movie went along. Also, if you think about it someone had to learn how to use the force on their own at some point before they could teach it to others, no?

That’s a good point. And all the “stories” must have been quite a good set of hints on how it worked as well.

Also I guess her “awakening” with the Force is why the film’s called “The Force Awakens”? Or was there some other “awakening” that I missed? I can’t remember hearing Snoke’s “there’s been an awakening” line in the film.