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SilverWook
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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19-Dec-2015, 3:37 PM

pittrek said:

I just came from the movie theatre. I hated TFA less than any of the prequels. Unfortunately I have no idea what the movie was about. Not sure if it’s because I’ve seen a dubbed version and something was lost in the translation, but I seriously can’t understand what did I just watch.

  • What was the New Order? Who exactly are they and what’s they’re position in the movie Universe? Are they at the same level as the Empire? I though so at the beginning, but then they say something about a New Republic. So what are they - some kind of a cult? Because they seem to have lots of resources and a good military. Can anybody please explain me what are the positions of the New Order and the New Republic in the “chain of command” of the universe?

  • Who are now the stormtroopers? OK, they’re definitely no longer the clones of that Australian guy, because our hero is a black guy. So are they volunteerly in the army? So why did the guy desert his army? And I noticed they actually mentioned clone troopers but again - who’s the army of the picture?

  • What was the BFG of the movie? You know, the new Death Star? Was it a planet? Or a big space station? Because it had trees and stuff. And aparently its own atmosphere.

  • Also - why was the new Death Star in the movie? It was stupid, pointless and had nothing to do with the story, it feels like the only reason they put it to the story was so that they can blow it up and have a “cool” action sequence.

  • Who was the story villain? Were it the uniform guys? Or was that just one uniform guy? Cause one of them seemed really important, he yelled at the stormtroopers in the trailer shot. ANd there was also one uniform guy who reported to the CG guy together with the Vader wannabe. Or was the Vader wannabe the villain ? I guess so, cause he killed Han Solo. Also, should it be a great reveal that he’s Han and Leia’s son? If so, why did they tell it in the beginning in the discussion between the CG guy and the DV wannabe? Or is the villain the CG guy? I thought that Abrams and Kasdan know that “less is more”.

  • Was Chewie CG? Seriously, every time he was on screen I could only thing about the fact that he looks CG.

  • What relationship should the girl and the black guy have? They have absolutely no chemistry together, but suddenly they hug and kiss. Should they be in love or just friends?

My impressions : the first part of the movie, when it’s a mix of 2 personal stories of a guy who doesn’t want to kill people and a girl who is trying to make some money so that she can buy food is really, really good. The second part of the movie, when it’s a story about trying to run away from the New Order and find Luke Skywalker is really good. Then it suddenly feels like we switched to a poorly executed fan remake of the Death Star battle, this part is a horrible mess and I’m not sure what it was about.

So I don’t know, I’m glad I’ve seen it but I don’t really know if I want to see it again.

PS BB8 was GREAT !

The impression I got is the Resistance is a covert army fighting the New Order on behalf of the Republic, they don’t publicly sanction the Resistance, but are probably funding them secretly. It’s the worst kept secret of the Cold War era the galaxy is in a the beginning of the film. The New Order is the splintered remains of the old Empire regrouped and reformed under the leadership of this Snoke guy.

New Order troopers are kids indoctrinated when very young. This is mentioned when the bad guys discuss Finn’s defection. (We even see Finn’s personnel file with a photo of him as a child.) Clones are merely mentioned as a lament for the good old days. It was Finn’s first mission, so seeing innocents massacred made him question his loyalties.

We had multiple villains in Star Wars before. Snoke is the new Emperor, Kylo Ren is trying to walk in Vader’s footsteps. Phamsa is the new Boba Fett, in that she’s mysterious. Everyone else is either a Tarkin or a Admiral Piett. They aren’t going to survive more than two movies.

I did think a lot of the New Order officers wandered in off the set of Raiders though. 😉

Asking the bad guys in the Star Wars universe not to hollow out a planet into a massive superweapon is like asking nations on Earth not to want to build nuclear tipped missiles.

Chewie’s fur is a little different, as he’s a little older now. I don’t think he’s CG. Fur is hard to render. If Peter Mayhew’s stand in did the heavy lifting in the movie, he’s been studying the Wookiee master well, as Chewie acted like Chewie.