Benign Viewer said:
Han gets rescued. Is made a full time Alliance general in a scene that we don’t see. Goes from event to event as the plot dictates. The unique aspects of his character neither influence nor are influenced by any of these events.You could say the same stuff about his character in ANH and ESB. The arc is only prominent if you look at it from entire trilogy perspective. In ANH he pretends to be a badass. In ESB he softens up (stops pretending as people get to known him well). In ROTJ he is himself.
Benign Viewer said:
Has a super villain revealed as her father, and a long lost brother revealed, neither of which influence her character nor influence her or events in any way subsequently.What would you like? A soap opera? Destruction of her home planet didn’t influence her character in any way. Why should this influence her character?
I think AOTC might be perfect for you. You have a sensitive main character. Every little thing influences his character. You got lots of soap opera and whining. On top of that there is lots of “representative or member of High Command” stuff as well.
In ROTJ, Han is bland. It’s actually prequel-esque story telling (tell, don’t show characterization) where we never actually see Han make the decision to become a full-time Rebel, and why.
Note That to be shown this we don’t have to have dialogue of him whining about his feelings. Which should be obvious but it seems I have to keep addressing charges of wanting everything to be like the fucking prequels with you.
Let’s get that all out of the way now. You’re straw-manning me. That’s just about the lowest form of argument. As I said, I don’t expect you to agree with me, but just because I had a different vision of the film to you does not mean I wanted AOTC (a bad film like no other) for all of the Star Wars saga.
Debate the merit of my argument, please, instead of sophomorically putting words in my mouth. Wanting there to be some actual drama in the film (for characters other than Luke) instead of one great big pat-on-the-back-fest does not mean that ‘Soap Opera’ is the only alternative. That’s a false dichotomy.
I’m commenting on this thread because I want to discuss the flaws and merits of Return of the Jedi, such as each individual thinks they exist. I don’t care about insults and faux pas humour personally, but I can see that it’s a waste of my time.