I’d like to revive this thread as at least for me, this whole Terminator-2-CDS-mix-or-not-thing still hasn’t been fully examined, let alone of an official confirmation which we’ll probably wait for forever.
So I went through this thread again and also some others and the following points are still unanswered for me.
Let’s start with probably the most tricky one as playback devices are even rarer than the tapes -
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The D-Theater release - has anyone had a chance yet to check out which mix had been used for this one back in the days?
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So there seems to be at least some kind of consensus now that the AC3 data on the first Artisan/Live US DVD is in fact not the only source for the allegded CDS mix, but also available in form of the DTS data carried by some Japanese DVD.
In that regard …
MrBrown said:
Maybe I have the Japanese PIBF-92119 DVD with the Full Rate DTS Track here next Month.
Are you sure about that catalog number? Because I’ve “only” found the two so far which is confusing enough actually to have again two different releases with DTS included apparently:
PIBF-91219 and PIBF1219.
Besides from that - again - if that is true, then the “always been right” user DiscLord must have been wrong back then when he stated “For example, the original T2 DVD theatrical cut used the 5.1 mix made for the Kodak/ORC CDS (Cinema Digital Sound) system - no other DVD and no LaserDisc ever used that mix.” in this thread.
If I am not mistaken though, Gary started the remixing work in 2001 for the Ultimate Edition of the DVD so any former ones including LaserDiscs would have been released too early to carry any altered mix of the original?
Which leads to point
- Does the US LaserDisc with AC3 LD68952-2DD carry the CDS mix now or not?
The mentioning of “remastered” is a bit irritating, although “remastered” doesn’t necessarily mean “remixed”. Maybe the term rather tries to emphasize on the fact that it is in 5.1 now in contrast to the former Dolby Stereo releases and thus “remastered”.
- How many 5.1 mixes are known for Terminator 2? To my knowledge only the 2 of Gary Rydstrom before and after he revised his own work, but on the other hand, there are tons of releases and sometimes customized versions assumingly done by the releasing studio itself, like it happened with a the “platinum edition” DVD of Se7en if I remember correctly.
Sooner or later, I’ll figure it out on my own (yet have to get a D-Theater compatible D-VHS player, the LD and one or two of the Japanese DVDs with DTS) but I’d like to keep the discussion going and maybe someone has been “already” able to compare all these versions.
Cheers!