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Post #881963

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StarChewyWar
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Episode II has the best story of the prequels. Discuss.
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24-Nov-2015, 11:44 AM

13las said:

“Similar to Story and Plot, there’s a clear difference between Mystery and Suspense, but basically Suspense > Mystery. Why? Suspense also has to do with emotion while Mystery is just something you don’t know. Oh my god there’s a green cat for some reason. Such mystery. Call Sherlock Holmes.”

-Is it really necessary to point out the flaw in this logic? Suspense and mystery are not comparable concepts, and you negated your own definition of Mystery as ‘something you don’t know’ with a reference to Sherlock Holmes – titular character of some of the the most famous mysteries in literature that were astronomically more sophisticated than ‘something you don’t know’. A large part of that was suspense, as in consequences for not solving the mystery or a ticking clock. Just to show that suspense is a means of driving mystery.

“Let’s me give you Alfredo’s favorite example. Say there’s two people sitting and talking. Under them is a bomb that will blow up at 2 o clock. Neither the audience nor the characters know this. Bomb blows up. Two seconds of tension. Let’s redo it. We tell the audience there’s a bomb under the two people. Through the conversation, you begin to care about them. You wanna scream at them “THERE’S A BOMB! GET OUT!”. They keep talking. It’s 2:00. Don’t show the bomb blowing up. Up to 10 minutes of tension. THAT’S suspense.”

-Hitchcock was describing the difference between SURPRISE and SUSPENSE in this example. Mystery is not present here except for if the audience is meant to wonder who placed the bomb under the table and why. Or if the mystery a detective was solving elsewhere could prevent the bomb from detonating.

"The other main PLOT is the romance, and of course we know that was masterful sarcasm. "

-This is not plot. This is STORY. The plot is Anakin and Padmé hide on Naboo from Padmé’s attackers.

—I agree with a lot of what you’re saying in general terms but someone needed to take you down a peg, you’ve been wrong about almost everything you’ve said so arrogantly.

The Sherlock Holmes thing is just a joke, and yes I’ll admit it’s WAY better at creating suspense than the average mystery conspiracy thing you see in every TV show now. In fact, the whole ticking clock thing where if someone dies if they don’t solve the case counts more as suspense than mystery. When I was giving Hitchcock’s example, I was JUST describing only Suspense and showing how much more entertaining it can be. As for the romance plot/story thing, if it can be said in literal terms, it’s plot. Anakin and Padme fall in love. At least that’s the way I think of it. And if it IS story, then the only emotion I got from that was pain and a lot of cringing lol

I’d like to bring up another point. People here seem to think that when Lucas created the prequels, he was actually trying to create a good story. He was actually just making a mirror image of the original trilogy and calling it poetry. It’s called the Star Wars Ring Theory, and it’ll pretty much explain why the prequels suck. So if you wanted Lucas’s way of thinking of the prequels, make a mirror of the Empire Strikes Back.