SilverWook said:
There were many stories of people arranging to get May 25th 1983 off well in advance.
Sure. And those marathons will sell out this time, I'm sure. But as far as I know, they're one day only events and that's probably not how they would handle a OOT release. Then again, how they would handle it seems to be 'not at all'.
towne32 said:
SilverWook said:
There were many stories of people arranging to get May 25th 1983 off well in advance.
Sure. And those marathons will sell out this time, I'm sure. But as far as I know, they're one day only events and that's probably not how they would handle a OOT release. Then again, how they would handle it seems to be 'not at all'.
Which again is the strangest part of all of this.
Not one single mention either way, by anybody at Disney / LFL, since the purchase back in 2012.
All we have on the record is the John Landis quote.
GlastoEls said:
towne32 said:
SilverWook said:
There were many stories of people arranging to get May 25th 1983 off well in advance.
Sure. And those marathons will sell out this time, I'm sure. But as far as I know, they're one day only events and that's probably not how they would handle a OOT release. Then again, how they would handle it seems to be 'not at all'.
Which again is the strangest part of all of this.
Not one single mention either way, by anybody at Disney / LFL, since the purchase back in 2012.
All we have on the record is the John Landis quote.
It kind of begs the question as to whether we're making enough noise about it, or if there just aren't enough of us out there to begin with.
I'd like to think LFL/Disney is simply taking its time righting the wrongs of the last twenty years. The OUT/SE issue is something that actually bookends the prequels ('97 and '06). Maybe the new regime wants to first wash the taste of the prequels out of our mouths with TFA and Rogue One, before tackling the big elephant in the room.
You mean Bantha. ;)
Where were you in '77?
towne32 said:
Fox has video distribution rights. I think they could play it in theaters without Fox's consent. V and VI could apparently be distributed digitally without Fox?
But I think an important point that people sometimes gloss over is: would Fox try to withhold this? Why would Fox try to withhold this? Would they simply not want to put money into it themselves? I can see why Disney might not want to go through with it until Fox's rights expire (or are otherwise dealt with for IV), but I can't quite see what Fox has to lose, here.
Can we be certain about that? I recently read an article by Michael Kaminski who speculated that Fox had been offered the marketing rights for the prequels because Fox had something Lucas wanted in return and neither Warner or Universal could have give him: Star Wars - A New Hope
Therefore, it could be that Disney actually did acquire the rights for the entire Original Trilogy.
One of my friends who works with the industry told me many months ago, that the original version / theatrical edition would either be released to coincide with the theatrical premiere of TFA or its video release in 2016.
And the latest I heard about the basic story premise of TFA is that the Alliance wasn't all that victorious as the Special Edition of ROJ led us to believe, especially with its Coruscant revolution party (I always thought that the Coruscant team just won the superbowl and the party merely coincided with the defeat of the Emperor at the Battle of Endor - LOL).
Assuming that the SE of ROJ would constitute a continuity obstacle to TFA, then the reconstitution of the theatrical version (and its subsequent release) would already be one of the things we should be grateful for to TFA.
Lucas on the colorization of the THREE STOOGES in 2004: "Maybe just the fact that they're in black and white makes it funny, because their humor is dated. But by putting it in black and white, it puts it in a context where you can appreciate it for what it was." Lucas on film preservation before Congress in 1988: "The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests."
Wow, I hadn't even considered the significance of the in-theater marathons. That means Fox and Disney not only worked things out over digital online distribution, but theatrical as well. If I'm not mistaken, this will be the widest theatrical re-release of the films since 1997.
I'm still curious if this will be the surprise debut of the 4k SE, but I'm not gonna pay to sit through a crazy long marathon just to find out.
Here's hoping your friend actually knows what he's talking about, Lt. Hija. Bowing the OUT on blu-ray day and date with TFA next Spring was a possibility I'd also considered. I'm not holding my breath though, especially since we just this month got a reissue of the 2011 discs.
Lt. Hija said:
And the latest I heard about the basic story premise of TFA is that the Alliance wasn't all that victorious as the Special Edition of ROJ led us to believe, especially with its Coruscant revolution party (I always thought that the Coruscant team just won the superbowl and the party merely coincided with the defeat of the Emperor at the Battle of Endor - LOL).
Assuming that the SE of ROJ would constitute a continuity obstacle to TFA, then the reconstitution of the theatrical version (and its subsequent release) would already be one of the things we should be grateful for to TFA.
The Star Wars Aftermath novel (which is canon) starts off with this scene. Basically immediately after the camera wipe in SE RoTJ, imperial forces come in and crash the party.
If I recall correctly, Graham Chapman then turns to the reader and announces that this is all very silly, and that the next person caught acting silly towards the empire will have him to answer to.
My first post here. Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere.
I was fortunate to get tickets for the Star Wars Marathon at a theater in my city. While looking around tonight for some details I noted that the listing on the Seattle Cinema site explicitly mentions the following:
1:00 AM | Episode I: The Phantom Menace*
4:00 AM | Episode II: Attack of the Clones*
7:00 AM | Episode III: Revenge of the Sith*
*30-45 minute break between movies; 2D theatrical releases
(1 hour 15 minute intermission)
10:45 AM | Episode IV: A New Hope**
1:30 PM | Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back**
4:15 PM | Episode VI: Return of the Jedi**
**30-40 minute break between movies; 2D “original” theatrical releases (emphasis mine)
1 hour 30 minute intermission
8:00 PM | Episode VII: The Force Awakens***
***3D and Dolby Atmos
https://www.cinerama.com/Movie.aspx?fc=5106000324
I'll be attending in my city (in Ohio) at an AMC theater. My question or stream of consciousness thought is...surely this Marathon is a uniform thing...right? The AMC site doesn't explicitly say which versions will or won't be shown.
There's a marathon in my town but I can't find any information on it at all.
Has anyone contacted any of the theaters directly? I live near the only Oregon showing, but it's a Regal, and I don't think they'd know jack shit. Cinerama is a different story, however. They seem like they'd be more knowledgeable.
EDIT: I found a forum where someone got the running times from the films. This is what they were given:
Star Wars (2h 1m)
Empire (2h 4m)
Jedi (2h 14m)
http://www.film-tech.com/ubb/f8/t007339.html
If this is true, then you will notice that those are the theatrical run times.
Not gonna get my hopes up
Not gonna get my hopes up
Not gonna get my hopes up....
Fang Zei said:
Not gonna get my hopes up
Not gonna get my hopes up
Not gonna get my hopes up....
IT'S VERY HARD.
Could I see Disney doing this as some amazingly awesome surprise? Sure.
Do I actually see it happening? Not bloody likely.
The running time could be yet another example of the theater owner grabbing the numbers off of imdb or something without bothering to check which version it was for.
I must admit it's weird for them to specify "original" in quotes like that right on the theater's website.
See how I'm trying not to get those hopes up?
I don't know if my cinema's doing a marathon of any sort. I imagine it'd show up on the Vue website if they were.
Ol’ George has the GOUT, I see.
And you, young JCM, we will watch your link with great interest.
Ceci n’est pas une signature.
The quotation marks around "original" could actually be saying it's the original trilogy in name only and not the original version. Otherwise I don't get why they would be putting it in quotes like that.
It's so blatantly going to be the 2011 cuts; that's what they played at the original trilogy marathon I attended last year (http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/8-things-we-learned-star-wars-day), which featured the crowd (fantastically) booing loudly at every major SE change.
Yes, that was last year, but I can't believe they won't release the OOT theatrically or BD without major fanfare, and do they want to interfere with the buzz about The Force Awakens?
Side note: when talking about the SEs in the article above the BFI mention the 1997 cuts, but they were definitely 2011 (magenta, "noooo" in ROTJ, no scream in TESB, etc).
Like I said, at most it'll be the surprise debut of the 4K SE, maybe even with the rumored restoration of Han shooting first again.
If it was the original versions we would've heard about it by now, not through the cinerama's website.
Most people comment anti-disney and a little bit of George Lucas when it comes to these Star Wars Films.
Sorry if I change subject, but I’m addressing the original thread about the original theatrical versions…which have NEVER been given to us in the digital age.
The most pertinent issue never addressed is one in which George Lucas himself seemed to see “purity” in a very old film by the stooges in black and white, but never seemed to see such purity in his own films. I think this should be much more common knowledge, and prove Lucas is a hack…
“In 1983, Hal Roach Studios became one of the first studios to venture into the business of computerized film colorization. Buying a fifty percent interest in Wilson Markle’s Colorization Inc, it began creating digitally colored versions of some of its films. Roach’s Topper and Way Out West (both 1937) became the first black-and-white films to be redistributed in color using the digital colorization process,leading to controversy. Defenders of the process noted that it would allow black-and-white films to have new audiences of people who were not used to the format. Detractors complained (among other reasons) that the process was crude and claimed that even if it were refined, it would not take into account lighting compositions chosen for black-and-white photography which would not necessarily be as effective in color. Figures opposed to the process included Roger Ebert, James Stewart, John Huston, George Lucas and Woody Allen.” [should quote source… I think wikipedia but not sure]
But Lucas changes EVERYTHING about his original film. Total BS and the pot calling the kettle black. Therefore we will never see the original star wars in a theatre. What a jerk.
Respectfully, we know the above.
Let’s keep this to specific conversations to the scenario in 2015 i.e. speculation about that situation changing.
For the time being, the marathon screenings on December 17th are the next “let’s wait and see” release of the movies, but I’d be shocked if it were anything other than the special edition per usual.
George does not seem to mind the possibility of the original versions finally receiving equal treatment to the SE, especially now that it would no longer be on his dime.
Even the situation with Fox doesn’t seem like a roadblock, if the digital release and the upcoming marathon are any indication.
Disney’s ownership of Star Wars is a double-edged sword. The fact that Episode VII is happening has been enough of a distraction over the last three years from them needing to say anything at all about the OOT.
That guy from Wired magazine might’ve said it best back when the GOUT fiasco happened:
“They’re not gonna make the fans happy because the happy fan has everything he or she needs. They will kill the goose that laid the golden egg, they will cook it and they will sell the bones on eBay.”
I hope these words won’t hold true now that Disney’s in charge. Obviously nothing’s stopping them from producing a stellar OUT restoration, and there’s enough new content on the way to keep them going for many years to come.
Honestly the only reason that the marathon wouldn’t be the 2011’s is because they’re stuck in 1080p, but then again, so are II and III.
but then again, so are II and III.
Yes and no (I think). The cameras used for shooting II and III were only 1920:1080, yes. But I want to say that the vfx and the DI were done at actual 2k cinema resolution.
but then again, so are II and III.
Yes and no (I think). The cameras used for shooting II and III were only 1920:1080, yes. But I want to say that the vfx and the DI were done at actual 2k cinema resolution.
IMDB confirms that, but it seems kind of silly to have a DI in a higher resolution than your filmed portions. The 2011 OT is a different beast entirely, however.