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The clip just wont work for me.

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It didn't work for me, either.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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try opening in PowerDVD. It's an MPEG-2 clip with Layer II audio.
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
try opening in PowerDVD. It's an MPEG-2 clip with Layer II audio.


Okay, I got it. That was awesome.

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Originally posted by: The Bizzle
From what I remember, in the earlier versions, the Stormtrooper turns on his comlink to talk just as the head bumps, so people thought that the "pssht" noise of the comlink was the soundeffect for the Bump.


This is what I thought too - it's just unfortunate timing that the Stormtrooper comlink coincides with the stormtrooper banging his head.

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But then this forum wasn't created to make the best looking version, it was created so that people might use it in their efforts to create the best possible preservation. And this project does not fall into that category.


I take your point, but let's say that the OT DVDs which were recently released had actually been the ORIGINAL trilogy and not some super duper 2004 special edition, are you saying that you would not want Lucas to at least fix the lightsabers and stuff? I understand the hatred of all the CG and all that other crap, but what's wrong with fixing the colour bance and the lightsabers (nothing else though).

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That is the kind of SE I was hoping for, honestly. Fix dodgy effects, and leave it at that.

Moll.

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Me three.


Oh, ADM, I finally saw your movie. That's pretty damn funny! My turn.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Talk about a lot of wasted energy. It's very simple...

My desired result is: Looks like Star wars, feels like Star Wars.

I see something that's wrong - like a pink lightsaber, I fix it. I see something that's been added and doesn't look like Star Wars, I take it back out. For an artist and student of the aesthetic, I have to say these aren't very difficult decisions to make. Nobody on the production ever wanted the matte painting of the Tractor Beam Shaft not to match the live action. I suppose if it was a mismatch in the original, then this isn't a preservation, it's a restoration, of the ideal. Who gives a shit? Optical printing sucked, so there are problems with it, which people can spot today because their sensibilities are more refined.

You know, it's fun to say, "yeah, but THIS version had THIS, but in 1977 it didn't have THIS, but that was on the first print, and then it had THIS, and then on the east coast it was screened like THIS," just like it's fun to say the whole universe could be an atom in the fingertip of a giant. Doesn't serve much practical purpose beyond mental masturbation. We all know it's nearly impossible to define one version of the film as the true original. Production continued after the release for chrissakes.

But inconsistent color is inconsistent color, and nobody does that on purpose. It's an easy fix, and most importantly, it helps to preserve the suspension of disbelief, which is the foundation that the drama is built on.

In my version, one will watch the story. You'll be sucked in and you'll stay there. You won't be distracted from it by basic technical errors and out-of-place visuals. That's it. This forum is a celebration not of a "version", but of the original experience. My restoration recaptures that experience, certainly as I see it, and probably as most people see it. But this isn't for anyone but me, and so far I can tell you I'm quite happy. When I watch the restored portions I've done, I quickly forget where and what I've fixed... I'm just no longer seeing things that are obviously incorrect. It's a smooth landscape again, and I'm watching the characters, and feeling the emotions.

Anyway, work continues...

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In my version, one will watch the story. You'll be sucked in and you'll stay there. You won't be distracted from it by basic technical errors and out-of-place visuals. That's it. This forum is a celebration not of a "version", but of the original experience. My restoration recaptures that experience, certainly as I see it, and probably as most people see it. But this isn't for anyone but me, and so far I can tell you I'm quite happy. When I watch the restored portions I've done, I quickly forget where and what I've fixed... I'm just no longer seeing things that are obviously incorrect. It's a smooth landscape again, and I'm watching the characters, and feeling the emotions.


Mike, that is EXACTLY the same way I feel, as I'm sure the rest of us do. Preservation should be about recapturing the experience, not about what was on a reel of film back in '77. Thanks for reminding me why I do this.

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Exactly. Mike, your position makes perfect sense in this forum. It's a shame you were made to feel that it was necessary to defend your project.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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I agree wholeheartedly, for me it is about recreating how I felt in 1977 as a kid watching in awe.
Even then there were one or two things that pulled me out of the movie for a few seconds and broke the spell, (now there are a lot more) and for my own version I intend to fix anything that breaks you out of the moment.
Getting lost in the film is what its about for me, and I can't do that with the laserdisc version, and I absolutely can't with the SE DVD!
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This forum is a celebration not of a "version", but of the original experience.


This statement should be to the index page/home page. I think that this is definetly something that we should all try to remember.

Right on Mike.
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Right on Mike!! I would kill for a copy of your SW Trilogy restoration, although you keep saying it's for you only, so that's a shame. Anyway, I was checking out your site and you siad you stuck with the new 2oth Century Fox Logo because the one at the start of Star Wars is degraded and looks crummy compared to the new lucasfilm logo and opening crawl that you've made. But can't you just grab the old Fox logo from any fox movie that is not so deteriorated?

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For example, ALIEN has the same logo as Star Wars.

Moll.

"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)

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While watching one of the featurettes on the sofficial supplemental material DVD, I noticed that the original 20th century fox and lucasfilm logos are on there. I can't remember which featurette, but there's only 3 of them so I'm sure you'll find it. Maybe you can capture the logos from there.

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Originally posted by: Molly
For example, ALIEN has the same logo as Star Wars.

Moll.


*sigh* we've gone over this ... ALIEN has the ESB/ROTJ logo, not the ANH logo.
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It has the ANH/ESB logo.

I have an AVI which came from a site containing AVIs of openings like that, and it said it was from ALIEN, and it's the same logo as ANH/ESB.

ESB has the same logo as ANH; it's only ROTJ that's different. (I've checked it out to make sure.)

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Okay, you were right and wrong. Awhile ago I did screenshots for all of them, and ANH and ESB have the same logo, while ROTJ has a newer one. ALIEN has the ROTJ logo. Not the ANH/ESB one. Sorry.
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But what about the featurette on the official Star Wars DVD bonus disc? It's there, the Lucasfilm Logo too.

And if not Alien, then what about some other film? There must be some 1977 film that's been released on remastered DVD with original Fox Logo.

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http://randomness.dosius.com/fox1.jpg
This is the logo I was referring to, that supposedly comes from ALIEN.

http://randomness.dosius.com/fox2.jpg
This is the logo from ESB.

Moll.

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Originally posted by: ChainsawAsh
Okay, you were right and wrong. Awhile ago I did screenshots for all of them, and ANH and ESB have the same logo, while ROTJ has a newer one. ALIEN has the ROTJ logo. Not the ANH/ESB one. Sorry.


I'm not saying anyone's right or wrong, and I'm at work, so I can't check, but surely if Alien was made in 1979, 1 year before ESB and 2 years after ANH, and you say ANH and ESB have the same logo, why would Alien have a logo that came out later (i.e at the time of ROTJ)

Even if I'm wrong, I'd back up Molly just 'cos.

Does anyone have 'The Omen' or 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show' on DVD? If so, please check the logos.

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This is the Alien Fox logo as per the Quadrilogy DVD:

http://img85.exs.cx/img85/3742/foxalien5wv.jpg

And this is the Star Wars Fox logo from mverta's site:

http://img85.exs.cx/img85/2599/foxstarwars0no.jpg

So years of release notwithstanding, looks like they're different.

Unless the Alien Quadrilogy set uses a different logo, that is.