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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I "Balance Of The Force", and Ep II "The Clone War" (Released) — Page 14
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I've not seen GL's AOTC, but I can't imagine how bad it must smell.
Maybe I should try the novelizations.
I *am* interested in the prequel storyline, but I find the CGI unwatchable.
The vehicle trajectories, the creature movements -- Isaac Newton must be spinning in his grave !
However, in practice you must take into account the “fuckwit factor”. Just talk to Darth Mallwalker…
-Moth3r
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I never had the nerve to make the final cut.
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That said, the nips and tucks did wonders for both movies, my very young apprentice.
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But it is probably easier just to rip them from the PC version, I wonder what MF would think about using the KOTOR language tracks?
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That sounds a lot better than the awful reverse dialogue tracks used in Balance of the Force. Inhaling while speaking sounds worse than faux-asian accents. Not to mention that MagFans subtitles suck, at least in BotF. But The Kotor Language tracks are usually spoken calmly, and it might be hard to match the sounds with the action.
Plus, Kotor has no Gungans.
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Does anyone know if Riktor and/or Magnoliafan are still offering their dvds? I saw BOTF and was thouroughly impressed, and I don't see myself popping in the official ones, ever... ever, again! thanks in advance... I tried messaging both of them but no reply yet...
~Kevin
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Put in the subject line "WILL WORK FOR DVDS" and attach a coupon for the Big and Tall store.
.....um....forget that last line.
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PM me if anyone's interested.
T
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Different title and (better) opening crawl
Jar Jar dubbed and subtitled
Neimondians dubbed and subtitled
Dooku's lightsaber changed to yello
Any mention of Dooku as being a Sith lord right out will probably be at least attempted to be worked around
Deleted scenes will be incorporated, and some scenes taken out
I never had the nerve to make the final cut.
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Removing any mention of Midichlorines.
Keeping Anakin=Vader a secret (?). I know MF mentioned this in the past, but I honestlty don't see how this can be accomplished.
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I never had the nerve to make the final cut.
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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabris, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
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Gentlemen, you can’t fight in here, this is the war room!
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Yeah, whatever...
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Just a couple of quick comments (not that everyone else hasn't given their $.02.
Xvid encoding: Large size file yet still looks poor with tinny audio (and occasional audio echos). How come? The file is large enough to be pretty damn amazing from an edited DVD source. Also the aspect ration is a bit wonkey in some players. I use something fairly standard (Media Player Classic), yet I have to switch to WMP to get the aspect ration correct when watching. I don't have this problem with other Xvids.
Movie itself: Great. Loved that you moved some plot points to the front and changed some of the relationships. Muzzling JarJar and whiney Anakin makes the movie tolerable again. I'd love more character development now, but if Lucas didn't shoot it, there's not much that can be done there.
My only complaint is about the subtitled languages. I can live with the scrambled audio. Any collection of sounds have the possibility of being a language somewhere. I also have to believe that there are some sort of universal translators, that people DO understand multiple languages, or that JarJar is a jackass and makes comments to people who don't understand a word he's saying. (Heck I didn't understand Boss Nass when he spoken ENGLISH).
BUT, that being said, the subtitles could be better timed (and are long winded for the period given to read them). It might work better if they were a larger type-face. I watch on a 19" TV and by the time I make out the titles I usually miss the end of them.
Finally, some of the added titled dialog needs revision. The idea is good, but actor responses are quite often inappropriate to the new context.
Example: Kill them/his family - Actor's physical body language: Ok let's go.
I don't have to kill you human's after all - (And there was much rejoicing)(?)
Etc.
Also, some dialog sounds clunky in the context of the SW universe. And what's this about a stolen Gungan crystal? It's just now how the OT would have sounded if Lucas made these 15 years ago.
I guess what I'm saying is you need a re-write, but the ides are quite good.
Should we expect a version 2?
Dr. M
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One point ... the Kaiburr Crystal was actually a plot point for the original Star Wars in an earlier draft. It ended up being central to the plot of "Splinter of the Mind's Eye" which was a novel that came out between Star Wars and Empire. The origin of the Expanded Universe. MF dug this plot device back up, and it made the very end of BOTF so much better, as it gave explanation to what this Crystal Ball was that Padme gave to Nass. Hopefully that gives a little more background to where it came from.
Again, welcome to the boards. Look forward to your participation.
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Here's hoping it's available before RotS comes out.
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I'm new here and just recently found out about these magnoliafan edits. I'm just wondering where and how I can get a copy of both movies for myself? Like most Star Wars fans, Ep.1 and 2 were a disappointment (because of lack of great dialogue, lack of character development, and strange, often arbitrary action sequences). Any fan edit who feels my pain and actually takes the time to render these films somewhat tolerable is a great idea... Just let me know. I appreciate the help!