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Post #81932

Author
DanielB
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Myths
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16-Dec-2004, 11:56 PM
Again, you are misrepresenting the chaos theory if you think it explains how the universe became so scattered and clumped. The law of probabilities can be used to counter it, just for a start. Just because every atom COULD end up in a unique place, doesn't mean it will. If you are going to use chaos, use it properly. You may as well say "the big bang cannot be proven, because by the theory of chaos, you can't start from the result and work your way back - due to not knowing the cause (and only having a vague idea about the effect)". That would be a reasonable chaos-orientated theory. It is futile trying to reverse-step according to the theory of chaos, because the results came from unpredictable origins.

And even so, if you claim that according to Chaos it shouldn't be uniform - then neither should the cosmic background radiation, but it is isn't it? I don't subscribe to theories based on conjecture, I do believe the universe and everything in it was designed with a purpose, and is not the result of random (note that according to chaos randomness does not exist). I'll give you an example of conjecture:

Three Bible verses describe the same event, using it from the Gospel of Mark (10:25) it reads:

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God."

Biblical Scholars have reason to believe that Jesus was talking about the gate to Jerusalem. There isn't much evidence that gate actually existed, but if it did this is a good theory. While strictly speaking it isn't conjecture, it isn't a claim that can be conclusively proven either. Other people have pointed out that the Aramac word for camel also means rope. While this is also true, and entirely plausible - it is wrong to therefore assume a double meaning, because it is conjecture. In those times the Jews, the Romans - and everyone else - were all multilingual. Aramaic was hardly the only possible language he could have been talking in, and since the Gospels are all written in Greek (with some Aramaic quotes), there is really no way of knowing what language was actually in use at any given time.

Long-story-shot, if you see someone quote "It is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God" and claim Jesus said that, then it is merely conjecture - an unprovable statement, and they are mistaking. (On the other hand, something like saying Jesus given name was Yeshua, and this is most-likely what he was called on a day-to-day basis is very true, there is a lot of evidence for it, it isn't based on conjecture even though in some respects it is tracking a Hebrew name reversely translated from Greek).

Daniel